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Why all the talk about being so thin at Tight End?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:13 pm
Noticed today on the LSU lunch hour that Gordy and Charles mentioned several times about LSU being so thin at TE that they will not be able to run out of the double set? Isn't Pettigrew the only one that is out for the season? Did someone else get injured that I'm not aware of?
The roster seems fair in terms of competent playmakers...
18 Foster Moreau TE 6-6 256 Sr.
34 Zach Shefferr TE 6-3 223 Fr.
42 Aaron Moffitt TE 6-3 262 Fr.
45 Stephen King TE 6-7 242 Fr.
48 Carlton Smith TE 6-3 235 Fr.
49 Jansen Mayea TE 6-4 237 Fr.
81 Thaddeus Moss TE 6-3 225 So.
88 Jacory Washington TE 6-5 245 Sr.
I understand some of these guys are walk-ons, but do we not have enough guys on the roster for this to be a position of strength?
The roster seems fair in terms of competent playmakers...
18 Foster Moreau TE 6-6 256 Sr.
34 Zach Shefferr TE 6-3 223 Fr.
42 Aaron Moffitt TE 6-3 262 Fr.
45 Stephen King TE 6-7 242 Fr.
48 Carlton Smith TE 6-3 235 Fr.
49 Jansen Mayea TE 6-4 237 Fr.
81 Thaddeus Moss TE 6-3 225 So.
88 Jacory Washington TE 6-5 245 Sr.
I understand some of these guys are walk-ons, but do we not have enough guys on the roster for this to be a position of strength?
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Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:15 pm to JohnnyBgood
Moreau, Moss and Washington are the only scholarship TE’s. sheffler is more of a H back and Moffitt hasn’t shown the ability to contribute at any position so far. Walkon’s Are bodies for the most part.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:16 pm to rstamp1
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:18 pm to JohnnyBgood
I think it's more about Moreau being the only proven asset. If Moffitt can run block with his size then they should be able to do the double sets with he and Moreau
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:19 pm to JohnnyBgood
If Washington hasn’t done anything by now he never will. That leaves you with Moreau and Moss, who has also been banged up.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:24 pm to ipodking
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I think it's more about Moreau being the only proven asset. If Moffitt can run block with his size then they should be able to do the double sets with he and Moreau
how often do teams have more than one proven asset at TE? Sure, many teams utilize TEs a lot more than we have since Richard Dickson, but it's not exactly a position where teams have multiple guys on the team putting up good numbers, especially in today's modern offenses where being called a TE is a somewhat relative term for a lot of teams.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:25 pm to JohnnyBgood
They were expecting Pettigrew to be TE #2 to complement Moreau as on-the-line TEs to use in ace 1 back, 2 TE sets. They used Pettigrew a lot last year in this role with Moreau. Pettigrew is really good...
Moss is more a flex out stand up TE.
Washington SHOULD be Pettigrew's replacement, but he hasnt done a thing in 4 years already, he's entering year 5 and you cant expect much out of him.
Moffitt, havent heard a lick about, might be like his brother Clay on the baseball team and just not a realistic option to play.
Sheffler is similar to Moss, flex out stand up TE more so right now.
King, Smith and Mayea are all walk ons.
In the end you kind of have to separate the Moss/Shefflers from the Moreau/Pettigrew/Washingtons. They trust those last 3 more so to put their hand down and block than the others. Where Moffitt falls, probably more like a FB than TE honestly. Ducre is not a real option at TE, I imagine they shift him around just to try and find something for him to do.
Moss is more a flex out stand up TE.
Washington SHOULD be Pettigrew's replacement, but he hasnt done a thing in 4 years already, he's entering year 5 and you cant expect much out of him.
Moffitt, havent heard a lick about, might be like his brother Clay on the baseball team and just not a realistic option to play.
Sheffler is similar to Moss, flex out stand up TE more so right now.
King, Smith and Mayea are all walk ons.
In the end you kind of have to separate the Moss/Shefflers from the Moreau/Pettigrew/Washingtons. They trust those last 3 more so to put their hand down and block than the others. Where Moffitt falls, probably more like a FB than TE honestly. Ducre is not a real option at TE, I imagine they shift him around just to try and find something for him to do.
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:31 pm to JohnnyBgood
Other than Foster, how can you say anyone else is a competent playmaker?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:34 pm to lsufball19
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how often do teams have more than one proven asset at TE?
Teams typically have more than one TE with playing time which LSU doesn’t.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:38 pm to JohnnyBgood
Almost as bad as them talking the offensive line up saying how this is the first time in three years we almost went 3-Deep. Lose one player Now it’s time to hit the panic button. Losing one CB in recruiting All of a sudden we don’t have enough corners to put on the field.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:39 pm to ipodking
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Teams typically have more than one TE with playing time which LSU doesn’t.
but that's not what he said, he said proven asset. A guy having PT doesn't make him a proven asset. Regardless, that's still not even entirely accurate. Thaddeus Moss started at TE in several games for NC State in 2016. Or does he not count because he's a transfer?
This post was edited on 8/20/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:41 pm to JohnnyBgood
You answered your own question. We have 3 TEs basically. That’s thin if you have another injury you basically have 1 to play at a time.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:42 pm to ipodking
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Teams typically have more than one TE with playing time which LSU doesn’t.
Technically Moss played a lot as a freshman at NC State
Posted on 8/20/18 at 3:45 pm to JohnnyBgood
If they don’t at least try to use Tory Carter at TE, I’ll be pissed. Jacory Washington must have NO hands bc that size is ridiculous. He could be like OJ Howard
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:19 pm to JohnnyBgood
This is where Ensminger has to earn his money, fitting his system to his personnel.
In some offenses fullbacks, tight ends and h-backs are interchangeable. One thing they have in common is they all are called on to block a lot.
Ducre is more of a fullback or hback type, but he can block and I would assume being a running back has reasonable receiving skills. Ducre lacks the height of a traditional tight end, but he is faster than most tight ends and has been blocking since he came to LSU.
Another option in two tight end rushing short yardage situations is to bring in an extra offensive tackle as your second tight end. Other than Moreau and Moffit, our tight ends are not real heavy.
Unless Moreau goes down, god forbid, I think LSU has enough blocking and receiving options at tight end. I don't see why they cant run out of a double set. Move in and hback or another offensive lineman. Ensminger coached tight ends, I think this one he will figure out.
In some offenses fullbacks, tight ends and h-backs are interchangeable. One thing they have in common is they all are called on to block a lot.
Ducre is more of a fullback or hback type, but he can block and I would assume being a running back has reasonable receiving skills. Ducre lacks the height of a traditional tight end, but he is faster than most tight ends and has been blocking since he came to LSU.
Another option in two tight end rushing short yardage situations is to bring in an extra offensive tackle as your second tight end. Other than Moreau and Moffit, our tight ends are not real heavy.
Unless Moreau goes down, god forbid, I think LSU has enough blocking and receiving options at tight end. I don't see why they cant run out of a double set. Move in and hback or another offensive lineman. Ensminger coached tight ends, I think this one he will figure out.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:21 pm to JohnnyBgood
Where's the beef?
Posted on 8/20/18 at 4:25 pm to JohnnyBgood
This is why I don’t understand people on the rb wanting to cut ties with the juco TE.
Anywho, we can always but a backup tackle on the line of we want to run out of a double TE look imo
Anywho, we can always but a backup tackle on the line of we want to run out of a double TE look imo
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