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Rifle for 13 & 11 year old - Update page 5
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:20 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:20 am
My boys are getting into hunting and I was never a hunter. Looking for a decent rifle that will not break bank but still do the job. Looking at a Savage Axis 6.5 Creedmoor. Looking at it due to lower recoil. Would like some suggestions especially for someone who is not really that knowledgeable about rifles.
Thanks.
Thanks.
This post was edited on 8/22/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:25 am to LSUDAN1
I don’t know much about the 6.5. But 11 and 13 year old boys should be able to handle a 308 or 270 easily. And they will continue to get bigger.
I wouldn’t limit the caliber because of their age.
I wouldn’t limit the caliber because of their age.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:28 am to LSUDAN1
I think I was about 11 or 12 when my dad got me my 30-06. I still have it to this day and it shoots like a dream. Remington 700. I had replace the trigger, but that it.
My wife shoots a 25-06, and she loves it. Sweet shooting little gun.
My wife shoots a 25-06, and she loves it. Sweet shooting little gun.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:43 am to LSUDAN1
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My boys are getting into hunting and I was never a hunter. Looking for a decent rifle that will not break bank but still do the job. Looking at a Savage Axis 6.5 Creedmoor. Looking at it due to lower recoil. Would like some suggestions especially for someone who is not really that knowledgeable about rifles. Thanks.
I got an email this week for Tikka T3 rifles under $400 for some models and calibers.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:45 am to LSUDAN1
Some good advice already given in here. Don’t get a 6.5 creed and I say that as an owner of one. It’s a really popular round right now but mostly because of long range shooting, ammo is a bit harder to find off the shelf and it’s always going to be more expensive.
Stick with a traditional caliber and don’t be afraid of getting something that might be just a bit too big for them at current age, they will grow into it and you can usually buy recoil reduced rounds.
I’d look at .243, .308, 7mm-08, or a .270
Any of the big brand names will serve you well: browning, savage, Remington, Ruger, etc.
Stick with a traditional caliber and don’t be afraid of getting something that might be just a bit too big for them at current age, they will grow into it and you can usually buy recoil reduced rounds.
I’d look at .243, .308, 7mm-08, or a .270
Any of the big brand names will serve you well: browning, savage, Remington, Ruger, etc.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:03 am to LSUDAN1
7mm-08 or .243 either one will do the deal. Youth Model 7, with the right bullets it’s a shooter right out of the box
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:10 am to LSUDAN1
How far will they be shooting? Mine use an old Marlin 30-30 that has worked wonders but they're a little younger than yours. Its compact and has little recoil.
Like others have said, a .308, 7mm-08 or .270 should be fine for them.
Like others have said, a .308, 7mm-08 or .270 should be fine for them.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:15 am to LSUDAN1
Where to buy?
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They ship to any local licensed gun dealer in your area. My guy charges 25 bucks and there isn’t any tax because you purchase from out of state. It’s a really easy process ordering rifles online.
And those 7mm 08 reduced recoil rounds are easy to find. You can just order a couple of boxes with the rifle
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It comes with a decent scope already mounted. Really a great deal.
LINK
They ship to any local licensed gun dealer in your area. My guy charges 25 bucks and there isn’t any tax because you purchase from out of state. It’s a really easy process ordering rifles online.
And those 7mm 08 reduced recoil rounds are easy to find. You can just order a couple of boxes with the rifle
.
It comes with a decent scope already mounted. Really a great deal.
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 10:18 am
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:45 am to LSUDAN1
If you’re leaning 6.5 but like 308 you can marry those two and get a .260 Remington. But I’d only advise that if you handload ammo.
I like 308, 30-06, or 270 for ease of finding ammo and the range of choices. I agree with others to start with reduced recoil then let them use the rifle for a lifetime.
I like 308, 30-06, or 270 for ease of finding ammo and the range of choices. I agree with others to start with reduced recoil then let them use the rifle for a lifetime.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:24 am to LSUDAN1
My dad gave me and both my brothers 7mm08s when we were 11ish and it’s still my preferred rifle for deer after 20 plus years. He actually bought himself one too after years of shooting a 7mag.
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:26 pm to LSUDAN1
I got mine a savage 7mm-08 when he was 11. Would buy that gun again. Took it with me one day last year on what I was planning to be a doe hunt. Dropped a nice buck at 175 with it. Fun gun to shoot
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:20 pm to LSUDAN1
LSUDAN1,
Congratulations on being involved w/ your sons. I'm sure you'll have innumerable fond memories as I do from hunting w/ my son.
The question of gun recommendations for newbie hunter always brings a lot of opinions and suggestions. For AR guys, I'd suggest the 6.5 Grendel or 300 Blackout. In bolt guns I'd personally, I'd suggest a 260 Rem, 7-08, 308 Win, 270 Win or 30-06. The 6.5 Creedmore will work too, but be aware ahead of time re: local availability of ammo. My local ammo doesn't carry the CM nor the 7-08. In addition, I don't think the CM has reduced recoil loads yet. A few have already mentioned using reduced recoil/managed recoil loads and I agree. A reduced recoil 308 Win load actually has less recoil than a full power 243. W/ equal bullet weights, a short action round like the 308 Win will always recoil less than a similar long action round, like the 30-06, because the short round uses less powder. You may want to look at a youth rifle. Be sure the gun/stock fits your son(s). Some gun makers, e.g Mossberg, make a youth rifle that has an adjustable length of pull by means of different thicknesses of the butt pad. If you get a regular youth rifle that can't be adjusted you can always later buy an adult stock as your son grows. Or you could add the the length of pull using a slip on recoil pad. The Axis looks to be a good gun. The only Mossberg bolt action I shot was very accurate. I have a Marlin bolt action that's also very inexpensive. When shooting at the range, insist on them using both the foam ear plugs and ear muffs. Consider using a "sissy pad" (small sand bag between shoulder and recoil pad) at the range. Be sure the gun has a nice recoil pad (Limbsaver or Kick Eez are two than come to mind).
When my son was 10 years old I was faced w/ the same decision as you. I bought him a Savage bolt action (w/ the scope included) in 308 Win. I almost went w/ the 7-08, but this was before factory reduced recoil loads. I planned on making my own reduced loads and already had everything to do so w/ the 308. OTOH, fast forward 15 years later and I now have a 7-08 handgun. Last fall I bought a Thompson/Center Compass in 7-08 for a "grand child's" deer rifle.
Keep us updated. Enjoy your experiences w/ your sons.
Congratulations on being involved w/ your sons. I'm sure you'll have innumerable fond memories as I do from hunting w/ my son.
The question of gun recommendations for newbie hunter always brings a lot of opinions and suggestions. For AR guys, I'd suggest the 6.5 Grendel or 300 Blackout. In bolt guns I'd personally, I'd suggest a 260 Rem, 7-08, 308 Win, 270 Win or 30-06. The 6.5 Creedmore will work too, but be aware ahead of time re: local availability of ammo. My local ammo doesn't carry the CM nor the 7-08. In addition, I don't think the CM has reduced recoil loads yet. A few have already mentioned using reduced recoil/managed recoil loads and I agree. A reduced recoil 308 Win load actually has less recoil than a full power 243. W/ equal bullet weights, a short action round like the 308 Win will always recoil less than a similar long action round, like the 30-06, because the short round uses less powder. You may want to look at a youth rifle. Be sure the gun/stock fits your son(s). Some gun makers, e.g Mossberg, make a youth rifle that has an adjustable length of pull by means of different thicknesses of the butt pad. If you get a regular youth rifle that can't be adjusted you can always later buy an adult stock as your son grows. Or you could add the the length of pull using a slip on recoil pad. The Axis looks to be a good gun. The only Mossberg bolt action I shot was very accurate. I have a Marlin bolt action that's also very inexpensive. When shooting at the range, insist on them using both the foam ear plugs and ear muffs. Consider using a "sissy pad" (small sand bag between shoulder and recoil pad) at the range. Be sure the gun has a nice recoil pad (Limbsaver or Kick Eez are two than come to mind).
When my son was 10 years old I was faced w/ the same decision as you. I bought him a Savage bolt action (w/ the scope included) in 308 Win. I almost went w/ the 7-08, but this was before factory reduced recoil loads. I planned on making my own reduced loads and already had everything to do so w/ the 308. OTOH, fast forward 15 years later and I now have a 7-08 handgun. Last fall I bought a Thompson/Center Compass in 7-08 for a "grand child's" deer rifle.
Keep us updated. Enjoy your experiences w/ your sons.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 1:53 pm to LSUDAN1
Remington Model 7 in .308 is my go to rifle and I still use it most hunts. I’ve had it for 20 years and like it for its versatility. Got my wife a Ruger M77 continental in .257 Roberts I detach the scope and carry it on rainy days it has been a great gun.
Posted on 8/18/18 at 11:26 pm to LSUDAN1
Get the Savage Axis in .308,but also get them a .22 of some type.
Posted on 8/20/18 at 5:43 am to LSUDAN1
.25-06, .243 will kill deer all day every day.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 5:01 pm to LSUDAN1
Ruger American kids version .243
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