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Thiessen: “Trump can shut down his Russia critics with one bold move”
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:28 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:28 am
Originally in WaPo, but picked up nationally.
Link from my local paper
Link from my local paper
quote:
If President Trump wants to shut down the critics of his performance this week in Helsinki and strengthen U.S. national security, he can do so with one bold move: Announce he is moving out most U.S. forces currently stationed in Germany and sending them to Poland.
The Polish government recently presented Trump with a formal proposal to move U.S. troops from Stuttgart, Germany, to a new permanent U.S. military base in Poland. Trump should take up Warsaw on this offer.
Moving U.S. troops to Poland would be a bold, historic decision on par with Trump’s decision to move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem. Not only would it better position American forces, it also would completely flummox Trump’s critics in the U.S. foreign policy establishment. After spending the past week accusing him of being Putin’s puppet, they would look foolish if they turned around and criticized him for antagonizing Russia. And after attacking him for undermining NATO, they could hardly complain that he is taking unprecedented action to shore up the alliance’s Eastern flank.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 10:30 am
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Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:34 am to Ag Zwin
Trump isn’t your typical politician. He’s not going to make a major move like that just to try to shut the media up.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:34 am to Ag Zwin
I get his premise but this should be more about strategy than about poking the establishment in the eye in my view anyway.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:34 am to Ag Zwin
I wish we would do it. That would be a hit to germany’s economy as well.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:35 am to Ag Zwin
Or, an even bolder move, and bring them the frick home.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:35 am to Ag Zwin
I've been thinking the same thing ever since Merkel turned out to be such a worthless piece of shite.
Get our troops into an area that still upholds western civilization values and represents a more robust counter to any possible Russian expansion.
I don't think Russia really represents a military threat, so the western civilization defense is the stronger argument to me.
In Poland they would represent a bulwark against Islamist expansion as well - once they have taken control of Germany, France, UK, they might easily resort to military expansion towards those areas that do not foolishly welcome them.
Get our troops into an area that still upholds western civilization values and represents a more robust counter to any possible Russian expansion.
I don't think Russia really represents a military threat, so the western civilization defense is the stronger argument to me.
In Poland they would represent a bulwark against Islamist expansion as well - once they have taken control of Germany, France, UK, they might easily resort to military expansion towards those areas that do not foolishly welcome them.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:36 am to SelaTiger
quote:
Trump isn’t your typical politician. He’s not going to make a major move like that just to try to shut the media up.
Correct liberal histrionics are not going to drive his policy
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:52 am to Ag Zwin
Nothing Trump does will silence his critics. They are deranged.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:53 am to Ag Zwin
What I said.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:56 am to Ag Zwin
quote:
Trump can shut down his Russia critics with one bold move
He could’ve slapped Putin across the face w his dick and they’d criticize him.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 10:58 am to Ag Zwin
I know it’s a pipe dream but we need to get away from doing things because it’s a political win.
Though I really like this policy regardless of its optics. Germany doesn’t deserve our help and Poland is one of the few places on the planet that loves America. I’d prefer to bring them home and save the money but if we are protecting anyone Poland should be that place.
Though I really like this policy regardless of its optics. Germany doesn’t deserve our help and Poland is one of the few places on the planet that loves America. I’d prefer to bring them home and save the money but if we are protecting anyone Poland should be that place.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:01 am to ChineseBandit58
In Poland, they’d be a sign to the Germans that we aren’t exactly friends anymore, and we’re more friendly with the Poles than with them.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:02 am to Ag Zwin
Thiessen?
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This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:06 am to Ag Zwin
putting sanctions, killing 200 russians, kicking out diplomats and closing a consulate and selling weapons to ukraine was not enough...they will bitch about anything
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:08 am to Ag Zwin
So Trump should embrace a policy that undermines his foreign policy, in order to appease critics who will never be happy with him?
How does that make any sense?
How does that make any sense?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:09 am to Ag Zwin
Im really getting annoyed with all of these articles/comments ive seen for a while that seem to imply that:
"If Trump wants people to stop calling him a Nazi, he would do XYZ" as if somehow their initial infantile hyperbole was somehow valid in the first place.
Its a Joke because lets say he even did do what they said, those same people would flip on it and complain about it in an opposite way.
EDIT:
Because its a trap.
"If Trump wants people to stop calling him a Nazi, he would do XYZ" as if somehow their initial infantile hyperbole was somehow valid in the first place.
Its a Joke because lets say he even did do what they said, those same people would flip on it and complain about it in an opposite way.
EDIT:
quote:
So Trump should embrace a policy that undermines his foreign policy, in order to appease critics who will never be happy with him?
How does that make any sense?
Because its a trap.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 11:10 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:14 am to SelaTiger
quote:
Trump isn’t your typical politician. He’s not going to make a major move like that just to try to shut the media up.
Ding ding ding.
Same thing with tax returns a couple years ago. He's not going to give in to pressure just to appease people, especially when they will pick apart and twist the contents to use against him.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:21 am to Ag Zwin
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After spending the past week accusing him of being Putin’s puppet, they would look foolish if they turned around and criticized him for antagonizing Russia.
I fear they underestimate the power of T.D.S.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:26 am to Ag Zwin
How about this:
Cut the forces in Europe by half. Relocate the remaining forces in Germany to Poland minus the airbase. Send the forces removed from Europe to current bases surrounding China.
Or send them to the Mexican border.
Cut the forces in Europe by half. Relocate the remaining forces in Germany to Poland minus the airbase. Send the forces removed from Europe to current bases surrounding China.
Or send them to the Mexican border.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:48 pm to Ag Zwin
If Vladimir Putin flies to Mexico, crosses the US border and goes to San Francisco or Chicago, he can vote, right?
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