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I'm suspicious. Dems, Neocons, NeverTrumpers and Deep State are hiding something bigger.

Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:26 am
Democrats have always played the sympathetic card in Russian/US relations. Democrat hero FDR had an affectionate name for Stalin. He used to refer to Stalin as "Uncle Joe" as he murdered millions. Immediately after FDR's death the Cold War began in earnest because of his appeasement.

Then you have the "Lion of the Senate" Democrat Ted Kennedy who mocked Reagan's Strategic Missile Defense policy to protect the US from Russian ICBM's by calling the program "Star Wars". Of course at the time the media jumped on the mocking band wagon. This was kind of ironic given his brothers actions in the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The momentum from Reagan years really propelled our aggressive relations against Russia through GWB. Plus Russia was bogged down in Afghanistan while we funneled weapons to Afghanistan to defend themselves. It wasn't until the Obama years that Russia started strengthening it's footprint on the global stage especially by annexing Crimea and encroaching on Georgia. And lets not forget about the Russian Rest act of appeasement.

So from the 30,000 foot level the Democrat Party has a long history of Russian appeasement and sympathy. In terms of the NeoCons, they have always been consistent in their aggressive posture toward Russia.

Enter November 2016.

From November 2016 to December 2016 the Democrats along with the MSM did a 180 on Russia. At the time I was puzzled. I'm still puzzled. The 180 was so strong they actually lurched past the NeoCons on Russian aggression. It's the most peculiar thing. With that said, I do believe if Hillary had won Russian appeasement would have continued unabated in the Democrat Party.

So this begs the question, why the sudden lurch toward Russian aggression by the Democrats? I should clarify, there lurch toward Russian aggression has only been rhetorical. Donald Trump has been MUCH more aggressive toward Russia in his actions. In fact his actions are more aggressive than the NeoCons GHWB and GWB (to be fair GHWB, Clinton and GWB did not have to be that aggressive because they were still riding the Reagan wave).

Is MUH Russians just a smoke screen to hide FBI, CIA and DOJ crimes and save the reputations of those institutions? Or is it something bigger than the reputations of the FBI, CIA and DOJ being hidden?
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:28 am to
Just wait until the texts emerge of FBI agents talking about assassinating Trump or members of his family
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15343 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:29 am to
Those Dems are dead. Only the facists remain who pacify the little people with socialism while letting the banks run their Ponzi schemes with promises of tax payer bail outs.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:32 am to
Some powerful people have A LOT of money to lose, I'm just trying to understand how.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54231 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Is MUH Russians just a smoke screen to hide FBI, CIA and DOJ crimes and save the reputations of those institutions? Or is it something bigger than the reputations of the FBI, CIA and DOJ being hidden?


The man to talk to for your answer - Julian Assange. He did warn us.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:46 am to
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The momentum from Reagan years really propelled our aggressive relations against Russia through GWB. Plus Russia was bogged down in Afghanistan while we funneled weapons to Afghanistan to defend themselves.
Which actually gave the rise to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda via the Mujahideen, defeated the Russians, and now both hate us
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:58 am to
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I'm suspicious. Dems, Neocons, NeverTrumpers and Deep State are hiding something bigger



Well!! no shite.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27704 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:58 am to
Think Antartica.
Think Saturn.
What aren't they telling us?
Why might DS want to distract us with Russia?
Why might DS want to put us at war with Russia?
We would break Russia.
We would get Russia out of the way.
We would keep Putin and POTUS from exposing what must not be exposed.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29997 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:09 am to
They are just using whatever tools they have at their disposal. Fear and mockery are two of the most visceral stimulus humans encounter and are almost guaranteed to get a response.
Mock Romney for his caution regarding Russia in 2012 and then use fear to suggest Trump is too cozy with them. Their ultimate goal is the same, divide and conquer.
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
3889 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:16 am to


Is MUH Russians just a smoke screen to hide FBI, CIA and DOJ crimes and save the reputations of those institutions? Or is it something bigger than the reputations of the FBI, CIA and DOJ being hidden?

This, at the very least
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63658 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:27 am to
It is absurd to suggest that the Democrats were soft on Russia. At most, they were not in favor of unnecessary American military action.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
7968 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:49 am to
I think it has everything to do with the Uranium 1 deal; its corruption all the way to the top of the executive branch(money). Also U1 was conspiracy to empower them globally.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:58 am to
It's bad, looks like they have all been corrupted by the dems and rino's, just like the media. Wikileaks showed us how corrupt it is and I have no doubt that the IRS, FBI, DOJ, etc are all corrupt. They can't let that cat out of the bag or they think all hell will break loose in our country.

I'm for Trump shining the light on all these agencies and having some mass firings, including the firings in the election.

All those people in Washington are so out of touch with the common man, the media and politicians sound like they are living in a different country from me. Trump is the MAN for causing all this to come to a head!!

MAGA /KAGA
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