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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:45 pm to
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You know a lot about this stuff



I've read a ton of stuff about it over the years and have listened to hundreds of hours of podcasts while running. I'm not suggesting that I am an expert or anything, but I would have appreciated someone explaining a lot of it to me when I first started running. There is a ton of info out there, some good and some bad. It's a lot to sort through and a few years of trial and error.

Ultimately, you will have to figure what works best for you by experience over time, but some of this might help you choose a good starting point and give you an idea of where you are going with your training. The other posters here probably have some good advice for you as well if they want to chime in.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:24 pm to
Cool. Thank you.

ETA: Not enough room to make "Delete my browsing history!" as the slogan at the bottom. But you can get it on 2 lines.

This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:35 pm to
Thank you again baw.
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

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Ordered one... thanks, been meaning to. "stop my watch" at the bottom, of course. So played out, but so true.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26599 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:11 pm to
I think I figured out my eight week plan leading into July and the weekend of the Fourth:

Static:

Monday - 6 easy
Tuesday - 6 easy
Wednesday - 4 mile tempo (mile 1 at easy pace, miles 2 and 3 at fast pace (sub 8:00/mi), mile 4 at easy pace)

Variable:

Thursdays
Weeks 1 - 2 - 8 x 200m intervals with 2 minutes rest at a slow pace in between
Weeks 2 - 4 - 10x200m intervals with 2 minutes rest at a slow pace in between
Weeks 5 - 6 - 6x400m intervals with 2 minutes rest at a slow pace in between
Weeks 7 - 8 - 8x400m intervals with 2 minutes rest at a slow pace in between

Saturdays
Weeks 1 - 4 - 9 miles below race pace
Weeks 5 - 8 - 10 miles below race pace
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 2:34 pm to
Looks good. I would split your interval and tempo workouts up more though. You want to recover between them to get the full benefit and avoid injury. If you are going to do intervals on Thursdays, then do your tempo run on Mondays. That way your schedule is hard/easy/hard/easy/rest/hard/rest
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 2:36 pm
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 4:31 pm to
Man...any of y’all ever have a rhomboid injury? frick this is awful.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26599 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 6:35 pm to
I had a tremendous eight miles on Saturday and a decent six miles yesterday. Other than a little left leg shin splints yesterday, nothing felt out of whack.

However, today, I had significant left leg shin splints the entire six miles. Furthermore, favoring my left leg and running gingerly on it made me land harder on my right. Now my right knee feels tight and a bit stiff. I've also been picking up some odd, stinging pain in my left hip. It's somewhat jolting and happens a few times early in the run but goes away. The hip pain makes me feel like something is about to slip out of place.

Is right now when I'm supposed to listen to my body and take a day off? I have two rest days coming up, but I don't want to miss my four-miler tomorrow. I don't want to be a puss, but got dang my leg was bothering me. Thanks for all y'all's help.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26599 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 6:36 pm to
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Man...any of y’all ever have a rhomboid injury? frick this is awful.


How did you pull that off?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:14 pm to
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Is right now when I'm supposed to listen to my body and take a day off?


Yes. Just shuffle your upcoming runs around to allow you rest tomorrow. Then, try a recovery run on Thursday and see how you feel. It can take shin splints days to get better, and if you keep running on them you could end up sidelined for a week or two. You aren’t training for a race right now, so there’s no reason to risk it.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 8:16 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Man...any of y’all ever have a rhomboid injury? frick this is awful.


I’ve been pretty lucky with my back over the years. Did you strain it lifting something over your head?
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:45 pm to
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How did you pull that off?


quote:

I’ve been pretty lucky with my back over the years. Did you strain it lifting something over your head?


Played golf for the first time since last August, guess I was swinging for the fences and tweaked it. This is rough, never realized how much that tiny muscle actually does.

ETA: I rarely have back issues too. Not sure what the hell I did.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 8:46 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73548 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:50 pm to
Sounds like a strain. You could have injured your rotator cuff too. Sometimes it’s hard to tell, because the pain can radiate to nearby muscles. Ice that thing down if you can. Hopefully, it’s just a mild sprain.
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 8:51 pm
Posted by JBR2132
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2020
14 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:00 pm to
The program I'm on follows this basic structure, with the change Patrick mentions re: spacing between tempo and interval workouts. It's worked well for me so far, helping me regain some of the fitness I lost after a long layoff.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13398 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:03 pm to


Icing it right now. Trying to ice it every 3 to 5 hours for 20 minutes or so.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125470 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 5:29 pm to
Some max effort stuff today

Running against the wind so I take the times with a grain of salt

7:14 mile
1:31 400
41 sec 200
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26599 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 6:18 pm to
I don’t feel guilty anymore about skipping my run after a couple drinks. So that’s good.

Nice 400 time baw
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 6:19 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125470 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 6:46 pm to
My mile should have been like 6:45

I was smoked tho, putting out all that effort and going no where vs the wind
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