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Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:07 am to
Posted by Paul3434
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 6:07 am to
Hi everyone, ran a 5 mile turkey trot very overweight and with inconsistent training. Finished in 54 min which met my goal of being below an hour. That being said, it was good enough to put me second to last in my age group and only 40 people were slower for the whole race. Next year I want to finish at least in the top half and have set a goal of 8 min/mile. Planning on following Hal higdon 5k then 10k plans over the next four months just to get miles up and then would appreciate any advice from here on what training to do to get faster for a 5 mile race. Thanks!
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/26/23 at 9:10 pm to
Finished my last +10 mile run before the Marathon!



A little faster than I should have run, but also wanted to make sure I could keep that pace even with tired legs and 22 miles already under my belt for the week. Probably lucky to get out of this without an injury, but I can be dumb sometimes
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 8:37 am
Posted by lsucm10
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 7:39 pm to
Not sure how many of you folks will remember my last post from the spring about having AFib, knee surgery, and all of that fun stuff. I’ve tried several times to start running again and after about two weeks my knee is killing me. Long story short, my shot of running another marathon is less than 5%. Dr said maybe dropping some pounds would help and give me a shot at running shorter distances. He advised swim or biking to get things going. Which of the two would you choose? If swimming, what are some options with indoor pools in Baton Rouge?
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 6:11 pm to
Just checking in after a long hiatus, to start motivating.

I’d hoped to be training for my 50th bday (ish) self-ultra, but I threw a mild adult temper tantrum a few weeks ago and injured myself (triggered by so much kid crap all over the den floor that I started kicking boxes and junk to clear a path and nailed pinky toe on a chair. Heard it snap and whole foot went purple for a week).

Plan is to cache food in a couple spots along the trail and “fast pack” w ultralight backpack gear. Still accumulating that. Going to have my fam shuttle me to Oconee State Park to the Foothills Trailhead and run the 77 mile trail back home (to Table Rock) in 4-5 days. May extend to do the side loops to make it 100 miles. Prefer early fall. Just want crisp cool days and not frigid nights. Want to run as much as I can safely run and then chill and take in the peace and quiet each eve. I’m in shite shape right now. Last run was 15k/2300ft out and back that nearly killed me.

I love that this thread is still going!
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 9:22 am
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:47 am to
Welcome back

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McLemore


I signed up for a run this morning "The Thrift Store Half Marathon" where you have to purchase all of your gear at a Thrift store "with only $20 in my pocket" - kinda excited. (this includes pants, shirts, bottles, nutrition, etc.)
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:45 am to
Hahaha. Nice.
Posted by jordan21210
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:46 am to
Most importantly, does that include shoes?
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Most importantly, does that include shoes?


Luckily no, I'll be wearing my Endorphin Rifts, I think those by themselves are 6 times the limit (on sale). It's run by a runner, I don't think he wants to have a race known as the "injury creator"

(I already have everything but a bottle and nutrition for $12, actually have been training in some of it the last few weeks)
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 5:06 pm
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 9:04 pm to
Feeling some tightness in my left leg (mostly on the thigh area) with some numbness creeping in if I sit in a chair for too long (bent knee, foot starts going numb)

Because of this I have decided to rest for the next two days

Obvious over-use tenderness (feels fine to jog and walk) so going to listen to my body so I can cross the finish line in a week and a half
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I signed up for a run this morning "The Thrift Store Half Marathon" where you have to purchase all of your gear at a Thrift store "with only $20 in my pocket" - kinda excited. (this includes pants, shirts, bottles, nutrition, etc.)



you know some dude is going to say he found some gu gels at goodwill
Posted by ks_nola
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 12:17 pm to
Lucky day. I got selected in the western states 100 lottery!!
Posted by BoCam2
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:26 pm to
Awesome! Congrats! I watched the whole livestream hoping my 1 ticket would get in but lightning didn't strike for me
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

Long story short, my shot of running another marathon is less than 5%.


Sounds motivating. Serious business, get on the Knees Over Toes program and try it for 6 months.

Losing weight will certainly help. Alternatives that I like for zone 2 cardio are rowing machine, jump rope, and a recently purchased slide board.


Ran my 8K today. It sucked. Left work Friday with a sore throat and headache. Came home, took a Benadryl, and went to bed. Barely got up and didn’t not feel good. Ran a respectable mile one and two (7:30/mile pace), but crashed hard after that. Pumped the brakes hard and went into have fun and finish mode.

One day……. my training plan is going to align with my body to be in perfect harmony for the race I’m in. One day.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Aubie Spr96


In your defense that's a pretty hard 8k and the last few miles are ridiculous
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:22 am to
Question for my long run guys. At what mileage do yall start fueling for long runs? For example, if I plan to do a 10 mile run and mix in some 1 mile intervals, would you bring a gel or drink? I routinely run 8 with nothing.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Question for my long run guys. At what mileage do yall start fueling for long runs?



My dietician said that any run over 60 mins needs to have a nutrition and hydration plan. I haven't been doing that. In fact, I've never stopped on any long run and have NEVER used any nutrition on one. She's making me start.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Question for my long run guys. At what mileage do yall start fueling for long runs? For example, if I plan to do a 10 mile run and mix in some 1 mile intervals, would you bring a gel or drink? I routinely run 8 with nothing.



Generally speaking I do not fuel if it's going to be under 1 1/2 hours AND not a race.

If I'm running for over an hour and a half and / or it's a race (I do not fuel for 5k, 10k, or 15k either, just half+) my general rule is ~200 calories per half hour, so basically a gu, spring, maurten, etc. every 30 minutes.

If it's a marathon or more I will also usually bring 1 or 2 extra items per hour and a half to "change things up". For my Full Sunday I will have a pack of skratch gummies and a skratch granola bar for my 1 1/2 hour mark and possibly my 3 hour mark depending on how I'm feeling.

ETA: If I'm doing a super long run (anything 14+ miles) during my training (about 7 times during a normal marathon prep) I will "practice" my nutrition plan for race day and bring nutrition with me. Birmingham has a great Running club and they always have "water stations" every 3 miles or so, so I just use those as a barometer to judge what to do.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:55 am
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:23 am to
Really depends on your time/pace. If you're running under an hour you can be fine without water. Anything over, consider it if you're not in the best of shape. You don't need a gel for 10 miles. Water/electrolytes never hurt when it's hot out but this cold weather will help you avoid sweating.

You're better off just having something really light before you go on your run. I used to do a trail mix 30-45 minutes before any workout that was no more than 400 calories.
Posted by ks_nola
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:37 am to
Jordan;

unfortunately this isn't an one answer fits all question, as too many factors come into play. did you eat before going out to run? are you running first thing in the morning? is it hot outside? etc.
of course you can stick to the general rule of thumb, 100 cals every 45min but is it truly needed probably not unless you are going to out there for 2+hrs. For your 10 mile run maybe have some water available and that's probably temperature dependent. If its under 60 degrees I don't carry water or fuel for up to 20 miles, but that's what i've gotten use to. occasionally I've wanted a sip of water around mile 15 but wasn't a necessity.
As mentioned in earlier comments, if you eventually plan to run a marathon or more you'll want to experiment with fueling so you will know what your stomach can handle.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13416 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Anything over, consider it if you're not in the best of shape. You don't need a gel for 10 miles. Water/electrolytes never hurt when it's hot out but this cold weather will help you avoid sweating. You're better off just having something really light before you go on your run. I used to do a trail mix 30-45 minutes before any workout that was no more than 400 calories.

I’m at a decent base right now. I generally follow the rule of anything over 1.5 hours I’ll bring something, but if it’s cool out I can survive without. Usually have a Lara bar or slice of toast before long runs.

quote:

unfortunately this isn't an one answer fits all question, as too many factors come into play. did you eat before going out to run? are you running first thing in the morning? is it hot outside? etc.

Usually will have a Lara bar 30 minutes to an hour before long runs, running in the morning, typically cool out.

I signed up for a half that is January 27th and starting to ramp up miles, albeit a little late but it is what it is. My longest run planned is 13 miles, I would go longer but cant be out the house for too long with two infants at home. I’m thinking I’ll carry some water with electrolytes on my longer pushes.

Thanks for the input y’all
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