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Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:54 am to TheCaterpillar
EXACTLY!!
Had Saban stuck with Hurts Bama would have lost.
Had Saban stuck with Hurts Bama would have lost.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:54 am to TheCaterpillar
He put in the Pineapple
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:55 am to Rouge
And ran completely different plays for that pineapple.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:56 am to karmew32
Saban was put in a very similar situation in this last NC and did win that game by doing the exact thing Les would not. He sat his starting QB for his next in line which shifted the game completely. Heard from friends who have spoken to players about that game and Les was stubborn as a mule. His continued hard headed game plan is why he isn't the coach today.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:57 am to karmew32
We had NO plan to counter Bama, none. We had no ability to flex to a different set/option on OFF. We kept slamming the ball into a wall. We were totally out prepared and out coached on the biggest stage in CFB.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:58 am to la_birdman
We went into halftime down 9, our D was playing well. A reasonable person could still think that with some minor adjustments(like the first game) we could come back and win.
He was wrong, as football coaches are....Jefferson v Lee is a dumb debate, Lee and Jefferson were damn near identical passers. Except one had shown the propensity to lose it on one throw.
People forget how it was still a two score game into the fourth and just remember the best down statistically
He was wrong, as football coaches are....Jefferson v Lee is a dumb debate, Lee and Jefferson were damn near identical passers. Except one had shown the propensity to lose it on one throw.
People forget how it was still a two score game into the fourth and just remember the best down statistically
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:07 am to tigerfoot
Jefferson/Lee is not a dumb debate. After Lee threw 2 interceptions vs Bama that year Miles benched Lee and Jefferson came out and ran some option which Bama was unprepared for and LSU won the game.
In this past NC game, Saban benched Hurts for Tua when Hurts was struggling. Tua had not started a game all year but Saban knew more of the same would get him beat so he took the chance. At least if he had lost he had tried everything. What happened with Les? He never tried. That is the point.
In this past NC game, Saban benched Hurts for Tua when Hurts was struggling. Tua had not started a game all year but Saban knew more of the same would get him beat so he took the chance. At least if he had lost he had tried everything. What happened with Les? He never tried. That is the point.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 8:09 am
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:12 am to STRIPES
More than likely Saban pulled hurts because he wasn’t executing correctly.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:54 am to la_birdman
quote:
That's not what I'm saying at all.
And what I am saying, is that Lee crashed and burned in the first Alabama game both physically and mentally. He was a shell of the QB after that game and after the move to number two. The Alabama defense had our most mobile QB spending more time trying to escape than looking downfield. They had our RBs being hit in our backfield or close to the line. I am not sure what this other game plan could have been, but that is on Les.
LSU didn't win games because of its QB play that season. Well, JJ's ability to run the option in the November game was as close as it got to QB play winning a game, but we all know Alabama shot itself in the foot a lot in that game.
LSU won due to a special teams play that was outstanding most of the season, but not in the NCG. We won due to a rush that was over powering, but not in the NCG. We won due to a defense that was stout and played well even in the NCG.
Alabama beat us in every phase of the game both between the lines and on the side lines. The loss falls directly on the shoulders of the coaching staff as all loses do.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:54 am to karmew32
quote:
1/9/12?
the night that destroyed lsu football program
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:07 am to karmew32
Because he got severely outcoached and robbed that team of it's rightful legacy.
That stubborn attitude is what got his arse canned, so now all he can do is take shots from the sideline.
That stubborn attitude is what got his arse canned, so now all he can do is take shots from the sideline.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:07 am to karmew32
He wouldn't change the flipping shitty quarterback! Saban did the obvious thing this last championship, and it worked. Les does it on 1/9/12, and who knows how history changes?
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:17 am to Barbellthor
Saban is a smart coach. He learned his lesson by watching what Miles did against him in 2012. It's stark.
Would Lee have made a difference, perhaps, perhaps not. However his introduction and the requisite offensive changes to fit his skills, MAY have given the AlaBama defense something to react to. It makes them adjust, and juuuuuuuuust maybe, have an off series that maaaaaaaaay allow LSU to score.
A score, ANY score by LSU in that game would have changed the entire complexion of the game. It would have given the defense a longer breather, a defense that played lights out, we all forget, they held the Tide to five field goals and only gave up one touchdown, close to the end.
That defense didn't deserve the shite sandwich the offense handed it.
Would Lee have made a difference, perhaps, perhaps not. However his introduction and the requisite offensive changes to fit his skills, MAY have given the AlaBama defense something to react to. It makes them adjust, and juuuuuuuuust maybe, have an off series that maaaaaaaaay allow LSU to score.
A score, ANY score by LSU in that game would have changed the entire complexion of the game. It would have given the defense a longer breather, a defense that played lights out, we all forget, they held the Tide to five field goals and only gave up one touchdown, close to the end.
That defense didn't deserve the shite sandwich the offense handed it.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:21 am to karmew32
The one is really simple. You know what Saban did during the title game in 2018 with the QB's that Miles did not do during the the Jan 2012 game? That's why.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:38 am to Woodreaux
Couple years later things were not getting better for us as the SEC west was getting stronger we seemed at times to be _ _____? 2015 we ranked- 106 in penalties
106 in passing offense
63rd in third down conversions
66 in first downs
74th in punting
82 in KO returns
74th in punting
106 in passing offense
63rd in third down conversions
66 in first downs
74th in punting
82 in KO returns
74th in punting
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:45 am to RedPop4
quote:
Would Lee have made a difference, perhaps, perhaps not. However his introduction and the requisite offensive changes to fit his skills, MAY have given the AlaBama defense something to react to. It makes them adjust, and juuuuuuuuust maybe, have an off series that maaaaaaaaay allow LSU to score.
A score, ANY score by LSU in that game would have changed the entire complexion of the game. It would have given the defense a longer breather, a defense that played lights out, we all forget, they held the Tide to five field goals and only gave up one touchdown, close to the end.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:55 am to karmew32
Please, for the love of god, this is over 6 years ago.....let it go.
There’s not a subject in LSU history that hasn’t been discussed as nauseum more than this 1/9 garbage.
It’s done. Finished.
There’s not a subject in LSU history that hasn’t been discussed as nauseum more than this 1/9 garbage.
It’s done. Finished.
This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 9:56 am
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:55 am to karmew32
Please see title game last year for how to make half time adjustment. Satans balls are 10 times bigger than Les’. It’s the NC for gods sake you do what it takes to try and win.
Posted on 7/6/18 at 9:56 am to STRIPES
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Saban benched Hurts for Tua when Hurts was struggling
When Saban was the coach at LSU he once benched Josh Booty in favour of Rohan Davey when the Tigers were trailing big at the half. Saban also benched Marcus Randall in favour of Jamarcus Russell when the Tigers trailed 15-7 with under 2 minutes in the game. In both cases LSU came back to win.
Les Miles had a different approach to crunchtime football. He was no Nick Saban.
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