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re: My alternative view on abortion with solutions (Long)
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:45 am to mahdragonz
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:45 am to mahdragonz
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But then you ask if they know someone who had one, that's usually where that case was the exception to being a baby killer.
I stopped talking to the only person I know who had one. I don't associate with murderers.
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Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:45 am to Ripley
I'm pro life but it's a complicated issue to me. We need to have a solid definition of when life begins and then go from there. We can't use religious definitions.
I think that pro life folks who want to do something about the issue should push for adoption to be made easier so that they can adopt instead of having 9 kids of their own. It would be a big help. I plan on adopting rather than having kids of my own. Plenty of children out there need a stable home.
I think that pro life folks who want to do something about the issue should push for adoption to be made easier so that they can adopt instead of having 9 kids of their own. It would be a big help. I plan on adopting rather than having kids of my own. Plenty of children out there need a stable home.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 7:44 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:49 am to Ripley
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I see it as wanting to punish the woman/couple at the expense/high risk of the would-be child having a shitty life
How shallow and short sided. It’s not about punishing anyone but rather protecting a child.
A shitty life is better than no life at all.
Do you think it would be ok to kill the homeless or mentally ill? They have shitty lives.
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 6:54 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:55 am to Ripley
I really do not care if a person has an abortion.
It's their choice and they have to live with their decision.
It's not like their choice affects my daily life bc it doesn't.
It's their choice and they have to live with their decision.
It's not like their choice affects my daily life bc it doesn't.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 6:59 am to Ripley
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I think that if a woman or a couple are having even the slightest doubt about having the baby, the best choice for the kid, the couple, and society is to terminate the pregnancy.
The best choice for society would probably be to terminate the couple that gets pregnant with a kid they don't want or can't afford, too. It's not difficult to not get pregnant.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:00 am to Rebel
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Do you think it would be ok to kill the homeless or mentally ill? They have shitty lives.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:01 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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The best choice for society would probably be to terminate the couple that gets pregnant with a kid they don't want or can't afford, too. It's not difficult to not get pregnant.
So murder is your solution?
That's interesting.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:15 am to Ripley
I would be totally on board with taxpayer funded vasectomies.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:24 am to celltech1981
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I think that pro life folks who want to do something about the issue should push for adoption to be made easier so that they can adopt instead of having 9 kids of their own. It would be a big help. I plan on adopting rather than having kids of their own. Plenty of children out there need a stable home.
I can concur with the difficulties of the adoption process, it’s not for the faint hearted.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:35 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:This response is so old, tiired and illogical.
So murder is your solution?
That's interesting.
Some idiot Leftist calls you a “racist” for saying or doing something that you do not see as being even-remotely racist. (“Are you out of your cotton-pickin’ mind?”) Does his behavior bother you even one iota, other than perhaps a bit of sympathy for his stupidity?
Yet you throw the word “murder” at a person who has already decided that abortion is NOT “murder,” and you think you have won the “Great Gotcha War.”
This post was edited on 6/28/18 at 7:46 am
Posted on 6/28/18 at 7:53 am to Bass Tiger
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I can concur with the difficulties of the adoption process, it’s not for the faint hearted.
It's pretty bad. A lot of folks adopt from outside of the country because of how hard it is. If adoption laws were eased up in America I bet a lot more kids would be adopted here. In theory that could reduce the need for abortions.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:00 am to Ripley
Holy crap that is a wall of fallacies.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:01 am to Ripley
I'm pro choice, but only up to a certain time frame. Aborting any kind of developed fetus is abominable IMO.
My rational side says abortion is a net positive on society because of the amount of unwanted, high poverty risk, and high crime risk children it prevents.
This is one of those no-win choices though IMO.
My rational side says abortion is a net positive on society because of the amount of unwanted, high poverty risk, and high crime risk children it prevents.
This is one of those no-win choices though IMO.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:02 am to Ripley
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When people against abortion understandably say, “it’s murder” or “I’m not paying for this person’s irresponsibility or mistake”, I see it as wanting to punish the woman/couple at the expense/high risk of the would-be child having a shitty life. I’d rather the couple get off “easy” in people’s eyes than to make them have the kid where he or she has to grow up and live an unfortunate life all because the couple should be punished.
Why doesn't that also apply to already born children?
An impoverished mother comes to the government with her 2 year old, complaining that the kid will have a horrible life.
Based on the above, why not kill the child?
I dont think you've thought this through very well.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:02 am to arktiger28
quote:Feel free to disagree with the analysis or conclusions, but PLEASE explain how any of it is a logical fallacy.
Holy crap that is a wall of fallacies.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:06 am to mauser
OP likes murdering babies
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:09 am to mahdragonz
I know no one that had an abortion.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:11 am to Ripley
I think killing bums and poor people would be a net benefit to society and would make those poor suffering souls better off, but you don't see me fighting for exceptions to the right to life.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:12 am to roadGator
quote:Yes, you do. She just chose not to say so to a self-righteous ... acquaintance.
I know no one that had an abortion.
Posted on 6/28/18 at 8:14 am to Azkiger
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I dont think you've thought this through very well.
I've thought this through very well. The child you are referring to has already experienced life therefore it would be murder.
Life in my opinion is made up of memories. It's made up of love, sadness, and joy. It's made up of conscious experiences.
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