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Commerce Secretary Ross: we can't tariff and negotiate at the same time
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:38 pm
Agree or disagree?
The actual quote: "You can't be tariffing people at the same exact time that you're negotiating a detailed arrangement with them."
The actual quote: "You can't be tariffing people at the same exact time that you're negotiating a detailed arrangement with them."
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Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:38 pm to 90proofprofessional
What a fricking idiot
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm to 90proofprofessional
Disagree. You?
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm to 90proofprofessional
Seems reasonable. Negotiations are fulid until the agreement is inked.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm to 90proofprofessional
Disagree. Why on Earth could you not?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:40 pm to 90proofprofessional
It’s 11 PM in Washington
Why is an elderly man up this late? He needs to be in bed
Why is an elderly man up this late? He needs to be in bed
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:45 pm to 90proofprofessional
Can you get a country to negotiations while they are under sanctions?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Can you get a country to negotiations while they are under sanctions?
I imagine they are more eager to come to an agreement while suffering from sanctions
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:47 pm to BBONDS25
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Disagree. You?
90proof is a #resist clown so he prob agrees with the topic at hand
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:49 pm to BBONDS25
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Disagree. You?
I gotta say I don't think he's correct, but I also don't know that he's not.
His job is to speak for the administration on this. It's just a weird thing to reveal, especially when we opened these negotiations with our tariff announcement that apparently we knew we couldn't follow through on if they succeeded in stringing the negotiations on long enough.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:52 pm to BeeFense5
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90proof is a #resist clown so he prob agrees with the topic at hand
you went zero to melt at an impressive rate mate
Posted on 5/21/18 at 11:54 pm to 90proofprofessional
What a nonsensical thing to say
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:45 am to 90proofprofessional
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His job is to speak for the administration on this. It's just a weird thing to reveal, especially when we opened these negotiations with our tariff announcement that apparently we knew we couldn't follow through on if they succeeded in stringing the negotiations on long enough.
Or maybe the tariffs got Xi and the rest of China to the table. Just because you keep everything thing on the table for negotiations doesn’t mean you’ll use everything. However you definitely weaken your position if you remove bargaining chips from the table from the get go. Previous administrations have always started negotiations with tariffs as a non-starter. This administration actually considers them and everything even if they don’t fight for them.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:00 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
He’s only 8 years older than Trump and 2 years younger than Reagan we he left office
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:01 am to 90proofprofessional
This s a commerce secretary? Wow.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 1:24 am to baobabtiger
I don't think they are going to get aggressive until the North Korea issue is complete.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:00 am to Tiger Roux
Common sense tells you to negotiate from a position of strength. We have done nothing and let these countries run all over us, and they do not believe mere talk. Actions speak much louder than words.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 6:00 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:02 am to 90proofprofessional
I don't even like tariffs but that makes no fricking sense
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:03 am to 90proofprofessional
Is he meaning that any agreement made would be under duress and therefore not valid?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 6:03 am to GumboPot
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maybe the tariffs got Xi and the rest of China to the table
Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but whatever that is, it doesn't seem to have done us much good. We were promised deals, and we're not getting them. TBH it looks like the Trump team's arse got handed to them at "the table"
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This administration actually considers them and everything even if they don’t fight for them.
Sounds like you view the whole tariff thing as a bluff now. It is hard not to read Ross' comments that way as well.
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