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Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:00 pm to WaltTeevens
quote:ive read ginobli and hayward
What is Doncic's game supposed to be like?
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:01 pm to WaltTeevens
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What is Doncic's game supposed to be like? I saw a bit of Ayton, and he looks like a dynamo, but you'd need to pair him up with a really good guard.
There we go... that sums it up.
Ayton to the Cavs.
PER NBADRAFT.net
Luka Comparison;
NBA Comparison: Toni Kukoc/Hedu Turkoglu
Ayton:
NBA Comparison: Shawn Kemp/David Robinson
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:05 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Doncic has been playing a lot of PG so those comparisons are pretty awful. Even if he's not a dedicated PG, he'll probably be the secondary creator on a team. There's not much there other than they were born abroad.
ETA: Ginobli comparison is a lot more appropriate
ETA: Ginobli comparison is a lot more appropriate
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:11 pm to jackwoods4
quote:
he'll probably be the secondary creator on a team.
Obviously Kukoc was not, but once Hedo got to Orlando he was usually their secondary ballhander behind their PG.
Years of 5 and 6 assists.
Although to be fair I'm not old enough to really remember Kukoc in his prime.
Just "big, European, 6th man, hit 3s"
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:15 pm to jackwoods4
I find it odd that 5 of the top 6 players are centers. It seems like everyone is trying to project the next unicorn.
ETA: I don't watch a ton of college basketball, but if Ayton is bad defensively how is he better than Okafor?
ETA: I don't watch a ton of college basketball, but if Ayton is bad defensively how is he better than Okafor?
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:27 pm to jackwoods4
If the Cavs get a top three pick I quit
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:37 pm to dawgfan24348
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If the Cavs get a top three pick I quit
They need it badly. Their post LeBron outlook (if he leaves) is not ideal, to say the least
Posted on 5/15/18 at 1:40 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
ETA: I don't watch a ton of college basketball, but if Ayton is bad defensively how is he better than Okafor?
Jmo but Ayton is an absolute physical freak compared to Okafor. He has all the tools to be a good defender eventually plus he actually has an outside jumper unlike Okafor, who never had one at Duke and 4 years later still doesn't have one.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:07 pm to David Ricky
How much longer does Okafor have in the league? Massive bust
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:13 pm to FleurDeLonestar
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How much longer does Okafor have in the league? Massive bust
It's crazy how smooth his offensive game looked in college, yet he's a complete non-factor in the pros.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:29 pm to WaltTeevens
For a few seconds I thought you were discussing Emekka Okafor
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:42 pm to Epic Cajun
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ETA: I don't watch a ton of college basketball, but if Ayton is bad defensively how is he better than Okafor?
Arizona fan here. Ayton isn't bad on D. He's an ok shotblocker, just not as good as you'd expect based on how freaky his length and athleticism.
One of the problems is he was paired with Dusan Ristic, who was really slow and immobile, so Ayton always got stuck against the smaller, quicker guys because Dusan couldn't. When he gets to be a true C, he will look better on D than in college.
He is so agile and athletic that he will at least be ok on D in the NBA. Okafor isn't half as quick as Ayton is. Vs his athletic potential, he may never be the impact defender he could be, but he won't be a liability.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:58 pm to Rep520
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He is so agile and athletic that he will at least be ok on D in the NBA. Okafor isn't half as quick as Ayton is. Vs his athletic potential, he may never be the impact defender he could be, but he won't be a liability.
Good to know. I was just genuinely curious because I keep hearing that the downside to Ayton is his defense. It doesn't seem very smart to draft a defensive liability at center with the overall number 1 pick.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 2:59 pm to WaltTeevens
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It's crazy how smooth his offensive game looked in college, yet he's a complete non-factor in the pros.
His problem is conditioning. You can only get by like that when you're 17-18
Eventually that catches up to him, which it looks like it has.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 3:07 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:
Good to know. I was just genuinely curious because I keep hearing that the downside to Ayton is his defense. It doesn't seem very smart to draft a defensive liability at center with the overall number 1 pick.
Ayton isn't a bad defender, he was just exceptional in all other categories. He's nowhere near a liability, he just doesn't dominate in rim protection like you expect from a 7'1 kid with a 7'6 wingspan and a 42 inch vertical.
He improved as a shot blocker as the season progressed too. It just sucked because when we got a team with a smaller 4, he always had to play out of position on the perimeter because Ristic couldn't.
My biggest criticism of him on D is that he lacks a natural shotblocker's instict and could push himself harder at times. One on one with a NBA center, he'll be fine, though. His lateral movement is nuts for his size and he's strong.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 3:31 pm to Rep520
Id love to pair Ayton with Collins in Atlanta, but I think if the Hawks had the choice, they go Luka.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 3:46 pm to devils1854
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Id love to pair Ayton with Collins in Atlanta, but I think if the Hawks had the choice, they go Luka.
I'm biased, but unless you have a C set, I don't know how a team would pass on Ayton.
He's 7'1, 260, has the 7'6 wingspan, a 42 inch vert and can touch the top of the backboard. He was a .343% 3 point shooter, so he has legit range plus the post game. I just think it's hard to pass on that physical profile.
Doncic is good, but Ayton is a unicorn physically and skill wise.
This post was edited on 5/15/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 5/15/18 at 4:45 pm to Rep520
1.Ayton
2.Doncic
3.Bamba
4.Carter
5.Porter
Thats my board for Atlanta. I think Bagley is going to be a good NBA player, but he doesnt fit the Hawks, and I am not high on Jackson at all.
2.Doncic
3.Bamba
4.Carter
5.Porter
Thats my board for Atlanta. I think Bagley is going to be a good NBA player, but he doesnt fit the Hawks, and I am not high on Jackson at all.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 4:58 pm to devils1854
I think Bagley's the surest bet, but he doesn't have the ceiling that Ayton and Doncic have.
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