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re: 4-Star OT Anthony Bradford of Muskegon (Mich.) commits to LSU

Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:28 pm to
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Because all 3 played guard in high school, camped/evaluated in recruiting as OG, entered the program as OG, and practiced at LSU as OG. They were OGs up to the point we had a need (due to depth most of the time) and then converted them, at LSU. I don't know what's difficult about that. HS, recruited, practiced and played at OG = OG.


That's not true at all. Do you enjoy just making shite up?

La'el Collins 247 Profile- #2 rated OT coming out of high school
Toby Weathersby 247 Profile- #6 rated OT coming out of high school

Malone was recruited and graded as a C, so I'll give you that one.

So again, what makes Weathersby or Collins different from this kid?
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 12:51 pm to
Listen, dum, dum, Mawae would have made a much better OLine coach than what they have had in the past with Stud and Grimes, but I don't expect you to get it. Lol
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13028 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 3:36 pm to
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That's not true at all. Do you enjoy just making shite up?
I do. You seem to as well.

I mean, you took a high school offensive tackle that isn't on the team yet and have found a way to attack Orgeron for converting offensive guards just like Les supposedly did.

So enjoy.

Oh, and you are the one who wants to compare to Les Miles tackles, I have no such inclination. Why do you want to compare to CLM tackles? Because this is only about Les Miles and Orgeron to you. But let's play this game...

What makes Bradford the SAME as Weathersby or Collins? Tell me, why is this the exact same situation? What about Bradford vs. Weathersby/Collins means you can predict exactly what's happening here, why he is being recruited, what position he will play?

Go for it.

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22165 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 4:23 pm to
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you took a high school offensive tackle that isn't on the team yet and have found a way to attack Orgeron for converting offensive guards just like Les supposedly did.

I'm not attacking Orgeron. I just find it ironic that those same people that bitched about converting guards under Miles are now all of a sudden okay with it. As another poster mentioned (it may have been you), it's not easy finding two legitimate OTs in college football. If you want to play your 5 best OL, you'll have some playing out of position.

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What makes Bradford the SAME as Weathersby or Collins? Tell me, why is this the exact same situation?

He's obviously not the exact same, but he has a similar frame and body type, one that naturally transitions to OG in college. Maybe he will drop some weight and turn into a prototypical OT, maybe he will successfully make the transition to OT like Collins did, or maybe he'll bounce around a bit like Weathersby. It doesn't change the fact that this is the same type of player that Miles caught shite for recruiting.
Posted by MDGary
Paulina, La.
Member since Jun 2012
5 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:59 pm to
Agreed; for too long lately Bama has just manhandled us...times will be changing
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66224 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 5:19 am to
He looks strong. Hope he sticks.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13028 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 10:52 am to
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I just find it ironic that those same people that bitched about converting guards under Miles are now all of a sudden okay with it.
for the record my opinion on converting guards, and my gripes about Les doing it, was twofold:

1. Are we doing it out of basically desperation, or less extreme need to get a body at the position? If yes, then the recruiting strategy is off. It's how you got into that position. We simply didn't recruit enough natural tackles OR guards that were good enough to move over. We started last year with two OTs that both almost quit (Weathersby and Malone), Malone had neither the frame (6'4"), feet/posture/balance, or strength to be a starting tackle. My gripe is not that we converted Malone (because with those short comings he did ok), but we were in the position to have to convert a Malone. Go back and look at the rosters from 2008 on. Many times we only listed 2 OTs (when we had Joe and Ciron is a good example). There's an issue there and it lies in pipeline/development followed by "oh shite, we need a body at LT".

2. Case by case basis. The assumption seemed to be experience was the priority when choosing who to move over. Both Les and Orgeron seemed to do this; I'll offer Malone (experienced) and Charles (freshman) as my evidence that experience is 3rd or 4th on the list of decision making factors in who to convert. Gotta start with the feet, it's the foundation that everything else as skill sets for an OT builds on. Then comes frame/length/size and agility/balance at 2a and 2b. After that it's experience (with technique embedded here) and strength at 3a and 3b.

In short, they could've done a better job of picking who to convert. Here we have Charles at 6'5" 320ish with a slightly longer wingspan for his height (nothing to write home about) with agility/footwork off the charts who played mostly OG but some OT (similar to Weathersby, he moved in HS) in HS who should have been singled out as an OT in HS, projected to be OT in college. And we have Bradford here, who both I and tubucco (and a couple others) are questioning the OT projection because of feet.

While they "missed" on Saadhiq, if they can't get Bradford's agility improved, then they will "miss" on him too. If Cregg thinks he can work it, then that's what they'll do. It would be a mistake to call Bradford THE tackle in this class, but he is indeed a tackle (who needs development).
Posted by 1723lale
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2222 posts
Posted on 5/12/18 at 8:28 pm to
Guy is a beast. After watching his film, I would be pumped to sign him...
Posted by smash williams
San Diego
Member since Apr 2009
19755 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 5:32 pm to
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Muskegon 2019 OL/RT Anthony Bradford attended Michigan State's 1-day camp which was for high school team's 7 on 7 and a big man camp. The LSU commit bench pressed 225 lbs, an incredible 30 times. The 30 reps is a Michigan State University camp record.
Posted by tFearIsReal
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2015
2529 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 6:02 pm to
Thanks for the update. Forgot about that dude.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 6:52 pm to
I think we still need a more natural tackle in this class even if he's a developing guy. This guy looks like a natural OG to me. At the same time I also think that Traore, Wire and Rosenthal are all perfect tackle prospects who will need a year to develop but once they do watch out.

I saw a little baby fat on Rosenthal but I think he slims down to around 310 or so and would be strong as an ox while being smooth and long. So Cregg should go out get another natural tackle and call it a day. I think we'll be set up nicely if he can do that. Then if this guy is a better option then at least you have another guy.
Posted by Brunedog
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
6486 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:58 pm to
Rosenthal will be playing defense
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:21 pm to
K
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 10:26 pm to
When he sees the competition there and the chance at tackle, I think he switches spots. If you look at his film, he's a much more natural OLman. He looks like a perfect RT to me and I'm sure the coaches see the exact same thing and talk him into switching positions.

Then if he excels there during practice, he can see the dollar signs at tackle, he won't mind. I just think he's a much more natrual tackle. But who knows, he may play DE or NT depending on how he grows, so you never know.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12467 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24459 posts
Posted on 6/15/18 at 11:31 pm to
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quote:
Muskegon (Mich.)


I've actually been there.

me too a few times. Didn’t like it in February. Loved it during the summer.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/16/18 at 12:12 am to
He don't quit on his blocks that's for sure! LOL I still think he's better suited at playing the other guard slot opposite Kardell. shite, with those 2 inside driving DLinemen off the ball by 10 yards LSU's RB's will feast. I just wish they could get both Emery and Cain to go along with Tyrion Davis. shite, with dominant drive blockers like that opening massive holes for the 3 of them to take turns ripping off runs would be enough for ole Les Miles to plead to come back to LSU and coach for free. LOL

Also, would have loved to have gotten Green back in the fold, but I knew once Fisher took the AtM job that would be the end of LSU getting a lot of top Texas talents. They will still get some, but not as much as before. Green is a natural OT that would have been a great fit next to Thomas, and with Bradford on the other side that would have been the making of an all world college Oline.
This post was edited on 6/16/18 at 12:23 am
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