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re: Teacher Salaries in Louisiana
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:32 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:32 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Not the several teachers I know. They do very well for themselves.
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Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:34 am to momentoftruth87
Do you actually understand that no teacher chooses their curriculum? Why is your beef with the teacher and not the DOE/State/District?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:35 am to momentoftruth87
quote:frick no, there is plenty that needs to be changed and much of that will depend on pay
As a teacher do you think our education system is where it needs to be?
quote:dude I'm at work 10 hours a day, that is setting up my classroom each day, preparing, meetings, teaching, etc.... I arrive at work at 7 and I don't leave to 4 and I have to eat with my students. I get a 45 minute break when my students are at PE but during that time I'm either grading papers, in a meeting, or just taking a breather from the day.
How much time do you waste each school year doing things that you think could be used for better improvement/areas of focus
I spend at least 2-3 days after the school year packing up my stuff, you know the stuff I bought throughout the year. Plus finalizing grades, submitting paperwork, and end of year meetings.
Then I spend at least two weeks of my summer in meeting learning about whatever curriculum they plan on doing the next year.
Then two week before school starts I'm setting up my classroom, painting, and planning my first couple of weeks. If I don't have that I'm meeting with my grade level teaching and planning our year so that we are both on the same page.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:39 am to cave canem
quote:No teacher feels they are special, however, let us let a 7-18-year-old decide your pay and see how you feel. Give you an example I had a female who last year scored Mastery across the board, this year her "bf" breaks up with her before testing, she is done within 10-20 minutes every day. She isn't going to score mastery again, so why is that my fault?
Why do you feel teachers are special and can't be paid upon their merit? This is the underlying issue that must be resolved to fix our schools, anything else is just whitewash.
quote:No more pay leads to more qualified people looking into education. People disregard going into the education field because of the pay, if you pay them accordingly then they will gladly come and teach.
You are making the exact same claim when you state that more pay leads to better results if you think it through.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:40 am to Sao
Because our teachers should be the ones challenging this as well.
There are tons of shite teachers out there man. Not you or tducen per say, but the OP was about pay. Why should we pay teachers more when our education system hasn't changed? Why has bullying risen over the years? Why don't schools get involved more with that. I'm saying that time should be focused differently with our youth as times change, but the system isn't changing with it. Are you saying teachers as a whole shouldn't challenge this? I see that as part of their jobs. If it's all about the kids, it should start with the teachers.
I know I seem like a huge douche, but these are my concerns of what I see.
I will agree parents are to blame as well and so is the state & federal education system
There are tons of shite teachers out there man. Not you or tducen per say, but the OP was about pay. Why should we pay teachers more when our education system hasn't changed? Why has bullying risen over the years? Why don't schools get involved more with that. I'm saying that time should be focused differently with our youth as times change, but the system isn't changing with it. Are you saying teachers as a whole shouldn't challenge this? I see that as part of their jobs. If it's all about the kids, it should start with the teachers.
I know I seem like a huge douche, but these are my concerns of what I see.
I will agree parents are to blame as well and so is the state & federal education system
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 12:41 am
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:41 am to momentoftruth87
FFS. When is the last time you attended a military brass meeting and demanded change?
Let's hear it, Private.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:42 am to momentoftruth87
quote:The OP was about how unfair teacher pay is around Louisiana.....
but the OP was about pay. Why should we pay teachers more when our education system hasn't changed?
quote:it actually has
Why has bullying risen over the years?
quote:Schools are doing plenty on bullying and many have a 0 tolerance policy on it
Why don't schools get involved more with that. I'm saying that time should be focused differently with our youth as times change,
quote:Teachers care plenty about the kids, teachers just want to be compensated fairly.... nothing wrong with that.
Are you saying teachers as a whole shouldn't challenge this? I see that as part of their jobs. If it's all about the kids, it should start with the teachers.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:43 am to tduecen
quote:
No teacher feels they are special, however, let us let a 7-18-year-old decide your pay and see how you feel. Give you an example I had a female who last year scored Mastery across the board, this year her "bf" breaks up with her before testing, she is done within 10-20 minutes every day. She isn't going to score mastery again, so why is that my fault?
You're also against your supervisors judging your performance so how do you proposed you be judged? Self assessment?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:43 am to tduecen
Do you feel you should be compensated first or the system should be improved first?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:45 am to tduecen
quote:
Schools are doing plenty on bullying
quote:
have a 0 tolerance policy on it
That's doing less by taking the easy way out.
You haven't conceded one single thing. You have an excuse for every legitimate concern risen.
You think you should just be handed more money, well, just because.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:45 am to tduecen
quote:
, however, many are leaving because they can make more doing other things
I know two that are now operators.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:45 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:An independent review from someone not associated with your parish
You're also against your supervisors judging your performance so how do you proposed you be judged? Self assessment?
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:45 am to momentoftruth87
No offense, but your chicken egg argument is lost. You're placing damages on the wrong party.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:46 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:really where?
You haven't conceded one single thing. You have an excuse for every legitimate concern risen.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:47 am to momentoftruth87
You improve teacher pay and get quality individuals in you improve the system... eventually the system will take advantage but quality individuals are more important
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:47 am to Sao
You two are trying to justify pay and not telling us why you deserve the increase.
Earlier in the thread there was a comment about police bitching. That's a bit different. Some get paid good, others don't. They sure as hell deal with more bs daily than a teacher.
Earlier in the thread there was a comment about police bitching. That's a bit different. Some get paid good, others don't. They sure as hell deal with more bs daily than a teacher.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:50 am to tduecen
quote:
You improve teacher pay and get quality individuals in you improve the system... eventually the system will take advantage but quality individuals are more important
Would you give up or restructure some of your retirement for a raise? Like I said earlier, if you live for 2p years after you retire you'll get almost $1 million in retirement.
Also your tax liability is 7.25% less than every one else's so add that back to your numbers.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:50 am to momentoftruth87
Why do teachers deserve a raise
- higher standards mean more hours
- more data means more hours
- more written work means more hours
- more meetings means more hours
- less teaching time/more testing time means more preparation and more pay
- higher standards for teachers means more pay
- higher standards mean more hours
- more data means more hours
- more written work means more hours
- more meetings means more hours
- less teaching time/more testing time means more preparation and more pay
- higher standards for teachers means more pay
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:50 am to momentoftruth87
I'm honestly dumbfounded by the incessant argument teachers have to face, period. It's nonsensical. Teach your own spawn and be rid of all your shitposting.
Posted on 4/28/18 at 12:51 am to tduecen
So you agree there is a lot of wasted time and the education system needs fixed?
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