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re: High-Paying Trade Jobs Sit Empty, While High School Grads Line Up For University
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:29 am to RedRifle
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:29 am to RedRifle
College isn’t for everyone at 18 years old. I’ll admit that. But if you want to retire ever a trade job isn’t the best way to get there.
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:29 am to RedRifle
This is a tough one. The world needs garbage men - and welders, millwrights, mechanics, truck drivers, roughnecks, etc. The issue is the free money that goes out to support our poor. Why go bust your arse to work your way up from making $12 to making $30 per hour ten years in to your career? Take the free tuition and avoid work a while longer. Then go home and wait for the taxpayers to pay you $10-12 equivalent. If you dont work you dont eat would solve much of the labor shortage.
Also, these goofy arse professors and administrators who live off the taxpayers are self-serving. Most work for a state funded institution and have may a career hustling for free money. Of course college is worthwhile and they are needed but there are too many stoned, goofy, liberal idiots teaching sociology and art appreciation.
Our manufacturing industry needs labor right now. A great problem to have for sure but no politician is willing to risk his taxpayer-funded check to push people into the jobs.
Also, these goofy arse professors and administrators who live off the taxpayers are self-serving. Most work for a state funded institution and have may a career hustling for free money. Of course college is worthwhile and they are needed but there are too many stoned, goofy, liberal idiots teaching sociology and art appreciation.
Our manufacturing industry needs labor right now. A great problem to have for sure but no politician is willing to risk his taxpayer-funded check to push people into the jobs.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:30 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Everytime I drive across campus I see these thousands of kids walking to and from class and I feel bad because most of them probably think there's a job waiting for them as soon as they graduate.
There is if you pick a good major. Accounting, finance, or engineering you can have multiple offers coming out of college and negotiate pay. You shouldn't be going to college for photography, though. Go work at an established photography studio and learn to take pictures, it ain't that hard.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:31 am to Powerman
quote:I wish there was a way to track for this, or something.
Might not be a bad idea to work one of those jobs for a couple of years before you go to college though
The kids that are academically gifted go straight through. . .all others have to work a year or 2 in order to qualify for loans or some such.
A couple years of life experience would fundamentally change the college experience for the better
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:32 am to NIH
quote:Exactly. We keep trying to fit pegs of various shapes into circled slot. It just isn't working.
This country doesn't have the balls necessary for real trade/education reform. If your kid isn't a.) interested in school or b.) doesn't test well by a certain age, they should be steered towards trades.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:33 am to Nado Jenkins83
I've been exploring the option of getting my foot in the door. I worked a few years for a geotech firm overseeing HDD and soil boring drills.
Unfortunately I live in central Alabama now.
Unfortunately I live in central Alabama now.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:34 am to Flanders
We have a guy that drives from wiggins ms
He is in south texas right now. So 20 day well he drives that 2.2 times a month on avg
He is in south texas right now. So 20 day well he drives that 2.2 times a month on avg
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:34 am to Powerman
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Might not be a bad idea to work one of those jobs for a couple of years before you go to college though
I'm a big proponent of the "1 year off between HS and college" idea.
Wish I would've done that.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:36 am to TheCaterpillar
#metoo
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:36 am to TheCaterpillar
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Most people want to make a lot more than that.
I want to make $1 billion per year, but that shite ain't happening. Little Junior Sonofabitch with his 2.35 HS GPA shouldn't be going to college... he's clearly not cut out for it. He should learn a trade and earn a good living. Sure, chances are that he isn't going to live in a $750,000 house and buy a new S550 every 2 years, but such is life. Not everyone is cut out to be an OT Baller. Your kids who excel in the classroom and have the skills/desire to be doctors, engineers, lawyers, businessmen, etc. should be going to college and most other kids should be learning a trade. Sure, not many kindergartners say "I want to grow up and fix air conditioning units!", but not everyone can be a fricking astronaut.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:36 am to Clark W Griswold
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But if you want to retire ever a trade job isn’t the best way to get there.
Most trade job through unions have great benefits.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
Especially in the northeast
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:40 am to Clark W Griswold
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College isn’t for everyone at 18 years old. I’ll admit that. But if you want to retire ever a trade job isn’t the best way to get there.
Not necessarily. Start at age 18 and stack away your $5,500 per year into a Vanguard Roth IRA. You are looking at over $2 million by age 65. If this were drilled into the heads of kids from an early age, their own investments and social security would be more than enough to retire comfortably after a trade career. This is to say nothing of union bennies, which are outrageous.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:43 am to RogerTheShrubber
I agree and tell kids to pursue all sorts of options other than college. Master plumbers do pretty well, but it’s 33 degrees outside and you’re dealing with shitwater. Electricians also do well, but I had some guys running stuff this summer and they were outside all damn day....I looked like it sucked.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:45 am to Tigerlaff
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their own investments and social security would be more than enough to retire comfortably after a trade career
LOL
We aren't getting anything back from this ponzi scheme
Posted on 4/26/18 at 10:52 am to TheCaterpillar
I did a social studies project in high school on social security. Wish i had a picture of my display. I had a lockbox with a sign for donations to my social security. Made 3$ bought some beef jerkey.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 11:28 am to Tigerlaff
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Having nothing to show for four years besides a pile of debt, a 2.5 GPA, and a BA in communications is not helping anyone but the Universities and the lenders.
Yep...well said
Posted on 4/26/18 at 11:36 am to RedRifle
quote:"High-paying"? If the jobs are sitting empty, then they aren't paying enough. Isn't this simple supply and demand?
High-Paying Trade Jobs Sit Empty
Posted on 4/26/18 at 11:39 am to schwartzy
College is one of the greatest stories of successful branding in the last 20 years. There are a handful of schools where the name still precedes itself (Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, etc.), but the majority of kids are lining themselves up for an uphill climb in the early part of their adult lives. If mom and dad are paying though, go enjoy the 4 year vacation.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 11:50 am to LSUShock
I love owning a company that does blue collar work. Great, hard working, honest people work for me and they're proud of the result of their labor at the end of the project.
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