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re: Orgeron did better in his first season than Saban did in his 3rd?

Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:19 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68926 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:19 am to
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n another note, Smoke and Mainieri had basically the same amount of wins in their first 5 years at LSU.


This is true too
Posted by Tiger in Tampa
Illinois
Member since Jul 2008
159 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:26 am to
Boxcar...let’s keep this comparison to Saban going in year 2. I’m interested to see how it turns out.

You see, Saban wasn’t coaching in year 1 for results on the scoreboard. He had a vision to build a stable/dominant program. Every move he made, every sentence he uttered, every hire...was centered around that vision.

O has been here for a while...can you tell me what his vision is?
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 7:29 am
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:31 am to
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O has been here for a while...can you tell me what his vision is?



No he can’t , hence why he started a thread yesterday asking what O could do to emulate Sabans “process”

Boxcar, why would O want to emulate a guy he’s a better coach than??

If O is better than Saban, he should be able to match his number of national titles in no time!
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3056 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:31 am to
Saban also lost a future National Title Winning Quarterback when they were 6-1 after beating Florida. Saban also was coming off of an SEC Championship season.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6889 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:40 am to
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Orgeron did better in his first season than Saban did in his 3rd?


Have you learned nothing from reading the Rant? You are not allowed to say anything positive about Ed Orgeron!! He must always be described as a mentally challenged Cajun who will lose every game he coaches by 1,000,000 points! Anything else will not be tolerated.

That being said, it really is apples to oranges. Saban had to rebuild the program from scratch. O at least had something to work with
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:48 am to
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Have you learned nothing from reading the Rant? You are not allowed to say anything positive about Ed Orgeron


This is such BS. Most people with a functioning brain acknowledge that Ed is a really good D line coach and recruiter just a terrible head coach.

And this thread wasn’t started to just say something positive about O, the person who started this thread literally stayed at one point that O is a better coach than Saban.

That type of idiocy deserves all the ridicule it gets.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:58 am to
Curley Hallman has a better head coaching record than Ed Orgeron.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:18 am to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54602 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:19 am to
My god this may be the dumbest shite I’ve ever seen.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18776 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:27 am to
This is epic. Since you guys cant be this dumb I can only surmise that this is a product of the DP propaganda machine. How this bullshite is allowed to continually be posted is amazing. Oh well fiddle away Nero you propagandizing mother fricker. Meanwhile the real LSU fans will be concerned with the AD and the search for a competent HC
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:28 am to
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O has been here for a while...can you tell me what his vision is?


Okay first off, define, "been here a while"?

He is starting his second year as HC.

Secondly, one thing I can tell you what his vision is. It is to build up offensive and defensive lines that were terrible in the latter years under Miles, check!

Trying to change the offensive philosophy, which he actually seems to be doing.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by nawlins_saint
Death Valley
Member since Aug 2015
14 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:33 am to
Looks like you're doing this to just get attention?
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
1953 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:35 am to
Saban had QBs can throw accurate passes at 20 yards.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:38 am to
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Trying to change the offensive philosophy


Do you know what he wants to change it to?
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:41 am to
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Do you know what he wants to change it to?



One thing I can tell you is changing it from a Power I and toss dive left and right into the teeth of the defense. Trying to run 3 and 4 WR sets and getting the TE's involved. Something Miles refused to do, that much I do know.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:43 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22261 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:46 am to
Do you have room for one more on the championship express?
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15864 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:47 am to
It’s clearly bc Saban is an inferior coach. Happy now??
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:49 am to
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Something Miles refused to do, that much I do know.



Danny Etling had 38 dropbacks in Miles final game

Your a Moran.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54602 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:50 am to
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Trying to change the offensive philosophy, which he actually seems to be doing.
can you tell us what system LSU is running? It changes daily
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54602 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:51 am to
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Secondly, one thing I can tell you what his vision is. It is to build up offensive and defensive lines that were terrible in the latter years under Miles, check!

what about cornerbacks? He can just forget about that position and bring in grad transfers? What about missing on a qb last cycle? If one leaves LSU is fricked.
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