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Little kids throwing curve balls.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:19 pm
At what age is it really safe for little kids to start chunking curve balls? 13 is the general age I’ve always heard but didn’t know if that was backed up by actual science or anything. I’ll gladly pilfer thru the usual responses about kids and baseball if someone has some actual knowledge on the subject 
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 8:20 pm
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:22 pm to LSUballs
Pervert
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:25 pm to LSUballs
I use to tell kids 15/16 that any earlier they should be focused on fastball/change up. Of course you have people trying to teach kids a circle change at 13 now 
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:27 pm to LSUballs
If you throw a curve ball the right way it doesn’t hurt the arm anymore than a fastball. The reason kids who throw curveballs have more arm trouble is because they pitch more than the other kids.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:27 pm to LSUballs
Maybe a knuckle curve at 13. Personally I don't think I'd have my own kid throwing a curve at that age.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:33 pm to LSUballs
Before high school, kids should develop a fastball and change up only. Their time should be spent learning control and gaining arm strength. A well placed fastball is better than just simply having a curveball.
They can learn a curveball later from someone who knows what they are talking about instead of Jim the accountant/little league coach.
They can learn a curveball later from someone who knows what they are talking about instead of Jim the accountant/little league coach.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:39 pm to LSUballs
started my son on curveball and changeups at 6. For any chance to get to majors you need them to start by 8 at the latest.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:40 pm to LSUballs
Better off learning to throw a nasty changeup that he can command and trying to develop the basics and finger strength to start getting more spin on the fastball for movement. Command those two well enough , work ethic, and blessed with enough strength and athletic ability and you can go far.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:46 pm to LSUballs
In our LL in the 80's, they banned it until you got to Pony League.
So, yeah the rules were 13 years old.
So, yeah the rules were 13 years old.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:55 pm to LSUballs
Prior to high school, they should be learning 4 seamers, 2 seamers, and changeups. A breaking ball isn't necessary and causes too much stress on the arm too young.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:01 pm to LSUballs
My son is 12 and throws a knuckle curve.. he will start working in a slider next year.. over usage and poor technique coupled with little arm downtime are the reasons for increased injury..
ETA. He throws a change and fastball 95% of the time.. the knuckle curve is essentially a change with more action.. I’d rather him develop a slider than a straight curve if he keeps pitching in high school
ETA. He throws a change and fastball 95% of the time.. the knuckle curve is essentially a change with more action.. I’d rather him develop a slider than a straight curve if he keeps pitching in high school
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:18 pm to LSUballs
We have a team that has been together since age four, we play community ball for practice then move to tournament (select) play.
AA 12 U team this year, we do not allow our kids to throw a curve ball.
We are also very strict on pitch counts.
Kids do not need a curve to be dominate at these ages, maybe if they show potential while high school age but the curve motion is a good way to damage young arms.
AA 12 U team this year, we do not allow our kids to throw a curve ball.
We are also very strict on pitch counts.
Kids do not need a curve to be dominate at these ages, maybe if they show potential while high school age but the curve motion is a good way to damage young arms.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:19 pm to LSUballs
I was a friend to a top notch orthopedic surgeon in Nashville. he was emphatic about not letting kids throw curves until they are a minimum 13 but 14 or even 15 was best. he also emphasized not letting them throw that many till later. he told me his business with high school pitchers was off the charts and he felt it was throwing pitches that hurt their arms and elbows.
the problem is the coaches, esp the "play ground" coaches. the summer league guys that think they are hot shite because they played in some minor league organization for a year or two. they destroy kids arms. not all, of course, but many.
the problem is the coaches, esp the "play ground" coaches. the summer league guys that think they are hot shite because they played in some minor league organization for a year or two. they destroy kids arms. not all, of course, but many.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:20 pm to LSUballs
I see 9 year olds doing it. They will be fine
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:46 pm to LSUballs
Wait til HS. Until then, no need to throw anything else but a 2-seam and 4-seam FB, change and cutter.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:47 pm to LSUballs
Wait. wait. Wait. Read The Arm by Jeff Passan
quote:
Male teens between ages 15 and 19 now account for the majority of "Tommy John" surgeries to reconstruct elbow ligaments, usually a result of a common sports injury from overusing the throwing arm, according to a new study published in the American Journal of Sports Medicine. And the number of procedures is growing fast.
quote:
Researchers analyzed a large database of patients who used private insurance that billed for the specific code for UCLR between 2007 and 2011, a total of 790 patients. Teens 15 to 19 years old accounted for almost 57 percent, the majority of these surgeries. The surgery rate for that age group has been increasing by about 9 percent per year, they found. The next closest age group, 20- to 24-year-olds, accounted for 22 percent of the operations.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:10 pm to LSUballs
8th Grade, unless shaving in 7th
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:14 pm to LSUballs
Well maybe it was just district prohibitions.
Because our County prohibited it.
I guess some allowed it.
But you got tossed if you threw a breaking ball in my league growing up in the 80's.
Because our County prohibited it.
I guess some allowed it.
But you got tossed if you threw a breaking ball in my league growing up in the 80's.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:36 pm to LSUballs
winter before freshman year of high school
signed,
a junior high world beater with junk for days who can’t throw a tennis ball without elbow pain
signed,
a junior high world beater with junk for days who can’t throw a tennis ball without elbow pain
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:50 am to LSUballs
Trick question- no need for anyone to throw a curveball if they can throw two fastballs and a change up
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