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TIL all white men got to vote just 14 years before black men
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:49 am
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1856: Abolition of property qualifications for white men
In the United States, the rise of Jacksonian democracy from the 1820s to 1850s led to a close approximation of universal manhood suffrage among whites being adopted in all states by 1856
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1870: Non-white men and freed slaves are guaranteed the right to vote by the Fifteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
Poor/non-land owning white men weren't all allowed to vote until 1856, and black men got to in 1870.
I thought it was a lot longer than that. Considering that the Revolutionary War ended in 1783, 1856 & 1870 seem like a pretty quick turnaround. Not sure why people feel like they were so greatly hindered.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:52 am to Kujo
It blew my mind to hear it stated black black men got the vote like 45 years sooner than white women. I think I knew the approximate dates and all, but I'd never heard the facts pieced together like that. Ever. And I'm a political junkie.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 9:54 am to Kujo
Yup its pretty much been even steven besides those 14 years.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:06 am to Kujo
And confederate veterans (i.e. nearly every white male in the south due to conscription) couldn’t vote from 1965-1877. That’s what spawned the KKK and caused the Battle of Liberty Place leading to the end of reconstruction.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:44 am to Kujo
After federal troops pulled out of the south, Southern whites used intimidation and violence to deter many blacks from voting . This included lynching , castrations and other vile acts. It was this way that whites where able to regain much of the political power that had been stripped after loosing the civil war. without federal troops to enforce free and fair elections , whites were able to keep blacks marginalized for many decades after reconstruction.
Reconstruction turned out be a huge failure for blacks. also whites forced blacks to pass ridiculously difficult “literacy tests” that most whites could not even pass. These tests can be found online. so yes , under federal law blacks were granted the right to vote but southern whites pulled out all the stops to fix elections in their favor. When the confederates got back political power positions like Sheriff and Judge, in small towns there was not really anyone to file greivence with. Many blacks had to return to their former lives of indentured servitude as sharecroppers.
Reconstruction turned out be a huge failure for blacks. also whites forced blacks to pass ridiculously difficult “literacy tests” that most whites could not even pass. These tests can be found online. so yes , under federal law blacks were granted the right to vote but southern whites pulled out all the stops to fix elections in their favor. When the confederates got back political power positions like Sheriff and Judge, in small towns there was not really anyone to file greivence with. Many blacks had to return to their former lives of indentured servitude as sharecroppers.
This post was edited on 3/27/18 at 10:47 am
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:45 am to Kujo
Universal suffrage was the worst thing to ever happen to the country. I don't think property ownership is the proper qualification, but you should have to be able to pass the citizenship test regardless of where you were born, and do some sort of public service (military of civil service) to be a voting citizen.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 11:53 am to Kujo
Goes to show that there is inequality even between whites.
Shocking.
Shocking.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:09 pm to Kujo
To piggy back off this topic, I get a laugh when I hear some liberal say “The Founding Fathers didn’t intend for people to have machine guns when they wrote the second amendment. They only knew about the musket.”
Well, if we’re using that line of thought, they didn’t intend for Shamekwa from the projects to vote either.
Well, if we’re using that line of thought, they didn’t intend for Shamekwa from the projects to vote either.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 12:13 pm to Kujo
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1856: Abolition of property qualifications for white men
Posted on 3/27/18 at 1:44 pm to Kujo
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Poor/non-land owning white men weren't all allowed to vote until 1856, and black men got to in 1870.
Absurdly facile sentence is absurdly facile.
Posted on 3/27/18 at 3:24 pm to Kujo
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Not sure why people feel like they were so greatly hindered
OP must not history much. There was that whole segregation/White supremacy thing too...
Posted on 3/27/18 at 3:37 pm to Kujo
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TIL all white men got to vote just 14 years before black men
That's incredibly misleading, but you knew that already.
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From 1890 to 1910, most black voters in the South were effectively disenfranchised by new state constitutions and state laws incorporating such obstacles as poll taxes and discriminatory literacy tests, from which white male voters were exempted by grandfather clauses. A system of whites-only primaries and violent intimidation by white groups also suppressed black participation.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 1:25 pm to Kujo
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Not sure why people feel like they were so greatly hindered.
In what year did the Ernest Green story take place? If you can research that and tell me when and how and what happened and you will see that there is a great deal more going on than the right to vote
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