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DOW closes down 720 points after Trump's China tariffs

Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by WXman
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:11 pm
Is the risk worth the reward in this case? Please forgive me because I haven't kept up with the math on the tariff situation with China so what is the defense of the tariffs? Is it going to help more than it hurts?

Don't slaughter me, I'm a republican like most of this board. I'm just not very informed on the subject.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:13 pm to
ban dow threads
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261602 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Is the risk worth the reward in this case?


No. It's crony capitalism
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

DOW closes down 720 points after


...the Austin bombing suspect was caught / killed.


Is it worth the risk to capture bombers? I mean...he really wasn't efficient at killing people. So, maybe we should have not caught him...because...you know...the Dow dropped AFTER!


post hoc ergo propter hoc and all of that
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140728 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:15 pm to
We should be exposing the hypocrisy of what other countries do and appealing for fairness but I don't think a tariff war is what anyone wants. China and the US especially.
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:16 pm to
If it keeps us from being China's bitch, then yes
Posted by Tesla
the Laurentian Abyss
Member since Dec 2011
7981 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Is it going to help more than it hurts?


Depends on the metric used to measure "help." If you mean by purely a cost to consumer measurement, heck no it won't help. If we find out that Chinese steel and aluminum sold to the US are substandard on purpose, then an argument can be made for effectively subsidizing an industry in the US for strategic purposes. It would "help" in that regard.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7148 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:18 pm to
A 2008 type recession would be great for me right now.
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:34 pm to
After months of studying the Twitter twit’s behavior patterns, I’m soooo looking forward to God Emporer’s melt down tmoro. This one should be epic.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26334 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:34 pm to
Dear Mr President,

Is this trade war necessary? Please clarify your justifications for the tariffs.

Sincerely,
Tarzana
US taxpayer and investor.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19713 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:39 pm to
Dow needs to shed about 5000-6000 points to get healthy. It's overvalued currently
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:44 pm to
Yes..

Like it or NOT China is in a trade war with the USA. We have been losing for well over a decade. This is not an Obama issue either.

Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

DOW closes down 720 points after Trump's China tariffs


Is that so?
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37734 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:04 pm to
#MoneyBoard

#frickChina
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
There haven't been any significant retaliatory measures taken by either the EU or China in response to Trump's sabre rattling yet, nor have we seen an immediate impact on domestic price increases or layoffs. You simply cannot measure the value of trade policy in the moment - not in a month, or a year, certainly not a day.

Trump is taking the same blowtorch to trade policy that he is to North Korea - force issues into headlines, keep the media aattention exactly where he wants it, begin inching towards permanent solutions behind the bluster of his own cartoonish proclamations.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57774 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Registered on: 3/13/2018


Hey a want
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:43 pm to
Maybe it was the shitastic budget agreement
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:47 pm to
Trump fans praise him for what he's done for the economy, yet if we look at the stock market and compare him and Obama at the same point during their Presidency:

On Obama's Inauguration day, the stock market was at 7949. On March 22nd, 2011, the stock market closed at 10888. The stock market made gains of roughly 36% for this timeframe.

On Trump's Inauguration day, the stock market was at 19827. Today, it closed at 23957. That shows an increase of 21%.

Pretty good, but not nearly on Obama's level. Hopefully, he can stem the tide, as the Dow is now flat for the last 3 months.

Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:02 pm to
Listen, I am pro-business and free trade. The salvo to start a trade war with China tariffs is something that I expect Bernie Sanders to do -- not a Republican President that is demolishing a traditionally republican position. The Dow down 724 gives a good indication what business, finance, and 401K's think of this move. Thanks Bernie -- errhhh Trump.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15529 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:10 pm to
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