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Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris?

Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:44 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:44 pm
Which one do you enjoy listening to more?

I listened to the debates between the two on Sam Harris' podcast and, in my mind, they were both way too smart for me, I didn't really follow half of what they were talking about because of the type of language and citations they were using.

However, I find that Jordan Peterson's podcast and the things he's done on other shows or outlets to be amazing. I've been listening to his Biblical Series, I'm a Christian, not trying to get into the debate of Atheism vs. Christianity at the moment, but I find that I understand the first few stories of the Bible in a much clearer way than I ever did before I listened to his podcast.

The things that Dr. Peterson says are so profound to me. I don't know if it's his delivery or that you can tell he believes 100% of what he's saying and isn't just going through the motions out there; but something about his message seems so spot on in so many ways.

Here's an example of something that I heard him say while listening to his podcast. It's from his Biblical Series and the episode is "The Call to Abraham."

Listen to around 27:30
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:45 pm to
Peterson is a gentleman and a scholar
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:47 pm to
I'm a tremendous fan of Jordan Peterson

Anyone else think he sounds EXACTLY like Glenn from Superstore?
Posted by Clint Torres
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:48 pm to
Sam is much brighter
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:49 pm to
Harris is more intelligent and more interesting.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 8:58 pm to
Peterson would make a really good Catholic. And that's not a compliment.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:06 pm to
I stick with Peej. I feel that he addresses things with the complexity they deserve. There is a reason Sam and Jordan refuse to debate him.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:09 pm to
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not trying to get into the debate of Atheism vs. Christianity at
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Jordan Peterson or Sam Harris?
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:09 pm to
They both have their expertise, but Peterson is the smartest man in the room 99.9% of the time


Jp for me
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:19 pm to
Listening to Peterson makes me tired.

Listening to Harris makes me turn the channel.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:26 pm to
Who are these people?
Posted by Lazy But Talented
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:36 pm to
Peterson for me.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:39 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 2:26 pm
Posted by stuntman
Florida
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:46 pm to
Team Peterson here.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:47 pm to
Harris seems ok, but Peterson is fricking awesome.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:49 pm to
Peterson speaks to the inborn human desire for metaphysical meaning. He is satisfying because he is right about the emptiness of postmodernism and the path toward happiness or eudaimonia.

However, Peterson is very quick to tell you what he "knows" and quick to dismiss that which he doesn't. He is a true believer in Carl Jung, who was a quack.


Harris, though not as satisfying, is more honest about what he does and does not "know." Harris is also a real scientist whereas Peterson will always be a soft scientist.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:49 pm to
Sam Harris is a racist TPOS.

Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 9:50 pm to
They are both great listens. While I dont subscribe to the religious doctrine that Petersen does I still prefer him slightly based on his delivery.

Harris seems smarter, though.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:08 pm to
I’m honestly not sure. Big fan of both of them and recently interacted with Sam when he was in Dallas (just asked him a question at his Q&A). Big fan of both of them and they both get me to think.

I’m more familiar with Harris’ work than Peterson and am recently binge reading/watching his work. I currently find most of their differences to be trivial, but Sam has enough of a problem with Jordan that I haven’t seen why he does yet. Sam seems to get along with Shapiro more than Peterson, when I think Sam has far more different viewpoints with Ben. They’re civil, but Sam makes it clear he thinks that Jordan is out there.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:14 pm to
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However, I find that Jordan Peterson's podcast and the things he's done on other shows or outlets to be amazing. I've been listening to his Biblical Series, I'm a Christian, not trying to get into the debate of Atheism vs. Christianity at the moment, but I find that I understand the first few stories of the Bible in a much clearer way than I ever did before I listened to his podcast.


I hate to burst your bubble here a bit, and it may not even be a bursting since Peterson doesn’t know what he thinks yet, but Peterson has said he’ll let the public know after studying more on Jesus if he’s actually a Christian and his definitive opinion on Jesus in 3 years. He’s brushing up, and I think talking with men like Sam may be making he himself doubt whether Jesus is the Son of God.

He said that like last month, but it will be a few years before Peterson says his definitive opinion on Jesus and being a Christian. I think it will be positive, but I do think this is his main focus now on a personal perspective on what his relationship with Jesus is and who Jesus was as well as the people around him.
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