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So, about that tariff: Just got hit with $11K adder notice
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:55 pm
I own a heavy equipment dealership. New units run $400-600K, and a SWAG of the steel content is 50,000 lb.
Two of our main product lines are both made in Wisconsin. One is much more vertically integrated and does a lot of their own fab work and machining (or farms that out to local shops). The other imports semi-finished weldments from China. It's unclear if semifinished components are included, but there is a good chance they will not.
The upshot of this is that the manufacturer that builds the stuff here will have a big hit to their material costs, and the one that imports work fabbed overseas may not. We placed orders for about a dozen machines this morning from the manufacturer that build more of the content here, and are being told that we should prepare for an $11K surcharge to those units.
It's not as fun when you see the knock on effects, not just for you, but for the people who build things.
Two of our main product lines are both made in Wisconsin. One is much more vertically integrated and does a lot of their own fab work and machining (or farms that out to local shops). The other imports semi-finished weldments from China. It's unclear if semifinished components are included, but there is a good chance they will not.
The upshot of this is that the manufacturer that builds the stuff here will have a big hit to their material costs, and the one that imports work fabbed overseas may not. We placed orders for about a dozen machines this morning from the manufacturer that build more of the content here, and are being told that we should prepare for an $11K surcharge to those units.
It's not as fun when you see the knock on effects, not just for you, but for the people who build things.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 1:56 pm
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:57 pm to Ag Zwin
But now we are actually employing Americans as opposed to Chinaman overseas. You should be grateful to our god emperor. You're lucky it's only $11,000 and not more. So ungrateful.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:58 pm to Ag Zwin
But steel workers in the midwest will keep their jobs.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:58 pm to Ag Zwin
muh crumbs
Posted on 3/7/18 at 1:58 pm to Ag Zwin
who downvotes this?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:00 pm to Ag Zwin
i expect a min of 40 down votes. Jdoc will be along shortly to tell you that its the small price to pay to be an American.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:05 pm to Ag Zwin
You paid 1k per machine that runs 400k-600k holy percentages batman.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:07 pm to Ag Zwin
I may lose my coat but tariffs and minimum wages are cousins.
Both are a government subsidy financed by the consumer.
I can make an exception for using tariffs to keep industry home for national defense purposes, but I'm not seeing that here.
Both are a government subsidy financed by the consumer.
I can make an exception for using tariffs to keep industry home for national defense purposes, but I'm not seeing that here.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:11 pm to Ag Zwin
We are at a mad rush to release equipment and material here this week.
so are requiring orders by close of business day today and other are requiring equipment delivered a certain date will be 10% more the the quoted price we have today.
so are requiring orders by close of business day today and other are requiring equipment delivered a certain date will be 10% more the the quoted price we have today.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:14 pm to Ag Zwin
Tell them you're cancelling the order unless they stop with their BS.
Like buying a car and walking away because they won't throw in the $150 floor mats.
Like buying a car and walking away because they won't throw in the $150 floor mats.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:18 pm to Ag Zwin
I'm calling BS. Prove it.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:20 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:100% predictable.
So, about that tariff: Just got hit with $11K adder notice
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:21 pm to Ag Zwin
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It's not as fun when you see the knock on effects, not just for you, but for the people who build things
Considering there is no tariff actually in place, I'm calling bullshite on your OP.
You fricking Lefties will lie through your goddamn teeth to push your bullshite. This is why you have no credibility, suck huge donkey balls, and are an abject detriment to this country and it's people.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:23 pm to Ag Zwin
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Ag Zwin
So you either had a 2% cost adder per equipment, or if that 11k is for the entire order than that is a .2% adder which is very insignificant. I also think it is worth it to pay .2 - 2% additional cost to buy American.
FWIW, Chinese products are shite. There is a reason most of the projects we are on have particular instruction that materials can not come from China. The welds are shitty, and there is no recourse for poor quality of materials such as too much or not enough of a certain element contained within the melt of that product. Then when you get to alloys its even more restrictive.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:25 pm to Ag Zwin
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$11K surcharge to those units.
$11 thousand on top of how much?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:26 pm to Ag Zwin
You are full of shite.
No tariff has even passed.
If your bill just went up $11k it is because they think you are a moron and will pay it.
No tariff has even passed.
If your bill just went up $11k it is because they think you are a moron and will pay it.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:28 pm to Ag Zwin
$11k each or $11k total?
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:28 pm to Ag Zwin
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New units run $400-600K
what kind of machinery
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:34 pm to Ag Zwin
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It's not as fun when you see the knock on effects
What knock on effects. You are insinuating that the adder is due to tariffs. No tariffs have been implemented yet. They are only proposed.
Posted on 3/7/18 at 2:43 pm to Ag Zwin
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I own a heavy equipment dealership
Got a daughter you need to marry off?
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Two of our main product lines are both made in Wisconsin.
Oh a case dealer, never mind
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 2:44 pm
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