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Why would a Louisiana state employment exam ask me if I identify as a Conservative?

Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:49 am
I found this extremely odd. I’m not going to go into it any further than that, but the exam had a lot of race-related questions and asked if I identified as a Conservative. It did not ask if I identified as a Liberal or democrat, only conservative.

Does anyone else find this to be a really weird question? I felt pressured to put “no” but in the end I stuck with my true feelings and said yes.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24676 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:50 am to
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TDcline


Was this for a state job or simply a state of Louisiana employment app?

If so, which test?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Does anyone else find this to be a really weird question?


of course not.

the current ruling vermin want to make sure they keep the "wrong" kind of people out.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:51 am to
Come on.
You have to give us more than that ....
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 10:53 am
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:53 am to
This was the final step in the application process for working as a state of Louisiana employee.
Posted by AnonymousTiger
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2012
4863 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:55 am to
Can a copy of this be found somewhere? I'd be interested in seeing this if true.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99324 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:55 am to
They want to know if you're going to be a hard worker and possibly make all the other state employees look bad.

eta: In my current federal position the quality of my work has made a few other providers look poor by comparison, which has led to some office strife at times.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:56 am to
Just tell them you’re a sassy black woman and the job is yours bro.
Posted by dietcoke7
LA
Member since Aug 2007
1048 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:56 am to
Please tell us you took a photo of this with your phone. What agency?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:57 am to
I want Chris Nakamoto on the case dammit!
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37734 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:58 am to
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the exam had a lot of race-related questions and asked if I identified as a Conservative. It did not ask if I identified as a Liberal or democrat, only conservative.


You should have taken a picture of that and shared it ... it would go viral.

You need to be more specific and offer-up details if you want to be taken seriously friend.

This would be a major violation of many laws ... if they are really asking this question.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 10:59 am to
Did it ask specifically if you were conservative or did it ask how you would identify your political affiliation? Neither is okay but curious.

Edit: Nevermind.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14513 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:00 am to
Sorry, but I call BS.


Unless you mean employment in the state of Louisiana, in which case it's still odd but at least legal.

But typically Louisiana state employment means the state government. That generally means civil service. Where such a question would be illegal. And it might be true for an unclassified position, but then you would not be taking an exam.

So again, I think you are making this up OR more likely you are misunderstanding something.



Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:00 am to
A quick Google search (I’m no attorney) shows that political party preference isn’t considered a discriminatory factor in hiring in Louisiana:

State laws on employment-related discrimination
quote:

Factors On Which Employment Discrimination is Prohibited
Louisiana
Race, color, religion, sex, national origin, sickle-cell disease traits, pregnancy, childbirth, and related conditions, age 40 and above, disability, veteran status, genetic information

From an ethical standpoint, however, as an employer, I’d certainly refrain from asking political questions.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96435 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:02 am to
Red flag.

They shouldn’t be asking anything about politics.

If you don’t get the job, you may have an employment suit you can file over this.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:05 am to
I mean, you can believe whatever the frick you want. I actually came close to not posting this because it’s a public board, but it honestly bothered me. It was not a civil service employment test. CS tests typically are given at the beginning of the hiring process which I’ve already taken.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:06 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14513 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:06 am to
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This was the final step in the application process for working as a state of Louisiana employee.


And you may not know, but classified (part of the civil service system) or unclassified (higher level positions, political appointments, colleges and universities)?

I can come up with a few reasons it might be asked of unclassified (but why the test?). No reason for this to be asked of classified applicants.

It's times like these I wish we had a private message system. If true as portrayed, this is huge deal.


Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:11 am to
I might be able to post more details about the exam once I talk to someone at the agency I’m applying for. I wasn’t given any directive not to talk about the exam. I’ll post in this thread if I get the ‘OK’
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14513 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:12 am to
quote:

I actually came close to not posting this because it’s a public board, but it honestly bothered me. It was not a civil service employment test. CS tests typically are given at the beginning of the hiring process which I’ve already taken.


So if it is unclassified, it's not illegal per se. If it is for a higher level position or political appointment, well it's dumb, but understandable. Part of those jobs include loyalty and political discretion. Still, to actually put it on paper is just sloppy. They should figure that out on their own.

If it's higher education, well that is a different story. Why the hell would they need to know that?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24676 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 11:13 am to
quote:

This was the final step in the application process for working as a state of Louisiana employee.


Please report that.
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