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re: What are some of your solutions for gun control that don't infringe on the 2nd Amendment?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:05 am to LSUZombie
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:05 am to LSUZombie
My idea was to enact the same policies Reagan signed in 1986 to apply to everything but bolt action rifles and 3 shell tube shotguns.
He outlawed the manufacture of true automatic weapons, but kept existing ones legal. This kept and has been keeping the quantity of automatic weapons low and out of reach price wise to all but the wealthiest buyers.
Most criminals wouldnt be able to acquire them because they are priced out, and due to the current state of ballistics testing, would quickly either run out of guns to shoot or switch to alternate (less effective) weapons.
He outlawed the manufacture of true automatic weapons, but kept existing ones legal. This kept and has been keeping the quantity of automatic weapons low and out of reach price wise to all but the wealthiest buyers.
Most criminals wouldnt be able to acquire them because they are priced out, and due to the current state of ballistics testing, would quickly either run out of guns to shoot or switch to alternate (less effective) weapons.
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:06 am to NYNolaguy1
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My idea was to enact the same policies Reagan signed in 1986 to apply to everything but bolt action rifles and 3 shell tube shotguns.
frick no. Massive infringement.
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He outlawed the manufacture of true automatic weapons, but kept existing ones legal. This kept and has been keeping the quantity of automatic weapons low and out of reach price wise to all but the wealthiest buyers.
And this bullshite needs to be repealed.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:11 am to LSUZombie
Ben Shapiro brought up a few good points.
All new schools going forward need to have the ability to lock down like hospitals.
More security. Basically the we protect our money with guns but not kids.
Stop saying the shooters name and picture. I very simple thing that should actually help that the media can do, but they wont
Each school should have some (not all) weapons trained teachers. There's no freaking danger to having a couple well trained teachers than know how to handle firearms on campus. Any argument against is just some emotional fear mongering. If that coach in Parkland was trained and had a weapon he may have survived and protected the children like the hero he as just the same.
One interesting one he brought up was that direct family members could have the ability to go to the courts and have a mentally ill person's capacity to have weapons taken away. I see some pros and cons about it, but I think it could be a reasonable idea.
All new schools going forward need to have the ability to lock down like hospitals.
More security. Basically the we protect our money with guns but not kids.
Stop saying the shooters name and picture. I very simple thing that should actually help that the media can do, but they wont
Each school should have some (not all) weapons trained teachers. There's no freaking danger to having a couple well trained teachers than know how to handle firearms on campus. Any argument against is just some emotional fear mongering. If that coach in Parkland was trained and had a weapon he may have survived and protected the children like the hero he as just the same.
One interesting one he brought up was that direct family members could have the ability to go to the courts and have a mentally ill person's capacity to have weapons taken away. I see some pros and cons about it, but I think it could be a reasonable idea.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:11 am to Centinel
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frick no. Massive infringement.
No one is taking any guns away, and there is no right to manufacture weapons in the US.
What right is being infringed?
Eta: I didnt down vote you
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 10:12 am
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:13 am to LSUZombie
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What are some of your solutions for gun control that don't infringe on the 2nd Amendment?
Apathy.
There's nothing that can be done.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:14 am to NYNolaguy1
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No one is taking any guns away, and there is no right to manufacture weapons in the US.
What right is being infringed?
You're taking away access to firearms. That's infringement you jackass.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:14 am to tylercsbn9
I don’t know why all of you feel the need to do anything. There is not a rash of school shootings or even gun violence in this country. That’s a complete myth. A tragedy happened but absolutely nothing needs to be done about it.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:16 am to NYNolaguy1
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What right is being infringed?
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and there is no right to manufacture weapons in the US.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:17 am to Centinel
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You're taking away access to firearms. That's infringement you jackass.
You can still buy and keep the guns you want?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:18 am to Stingray
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We are interested in expanding gun rights. Arming teachers. Universal concealed carry. Making it illegal to register gun owners. We aren't giving an inch to you freedom hating snowflakes, we are taking an inch.
Give felons the same right?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:20 am to i am dan
quote:Yes. If they’re a threat to society they should still be in prison no? Otherwise they’ve paid their debt to society and should have all the rights any other citizen should have.
Give felons the same right?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:20 am to LSUZombie
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something should be done, or at the least, we should try to do something to start curbing the rampant gun culture in America.
remove 4th Amendment protections on any person who has had a call made to any LEO accusing the subject of being unstable. cops should be able to seize/search those people, their homes, and automobiles solely off a tip and without a search warrant. agree?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:20 am to LSUZombie
We need to protect the 2nd amendment but also impose some reasonable limitations that won't infringe on our rights.
Perhaps a limit to ammo strength along with limiting magazine capacity ( or limiting to bolt action rifles and single shot pistols) would be one way to attack this problem.
We could limit ammo strength to say 250 ft/lbs of force, which is about the equivalent of a .38 special. Yes it would make hunting more challenging but that much more satisfying when you do get a kill.
it would make it that much tougher to pull off these type of mass attacks upon the citizenery of this once great country
Perhaps a limit to ammo strength along with limiting magazine capacity ( or limiting to bolt action rifles and single shot pistols) would be one way to attack this problem.
We could limit ammo strength to say 250 ft/lbs of force, which is about the equivalent of a .38 special. Yes it would make hunting more challenging but that much more satisfying when you do get a kill.
it would make it that much tougher to pull off these type of mass attacks upon the citizenery of this once great country
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:20 am to NYNolaguy1
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He outlawed the manufacture of true automatic weapons, but kept existing ones legal. This kept and has been keeping the quantity of automatic weapons low and out of reach price wise to all but the wealthiest buyers.
Most criminals wouldnt be able to acquire them because they are priced out, and due to the current state of ballistics testing, would quickly either run out of guns to shoot or switch to alternate (less effective) weapons.
This is not exactly true. Machine guns have been banned from private possession since 1986, except for those legally owned and registered with the Secretary of the Treasury as of May 19, 1986. According to one estimate, as of November 2007, there were approximately 182,600 machine guns available for transfer to civilians in the United States based upon an audit of the ATF-maintained National Firearms Registry and Transfer Record (NFRTR).
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:22 am to boxcar willie
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Perhaps a limit to ammo strength
what?
most of thse shootings are done with 9mm, .40 cal, or .223/556
so you want to ban a .45 cal or 308, just because?
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Yes it would make hunting more challenging but that much more satisfying when you do get a kill.
it would make hunting cruel
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:22 am to boxcar willie
quote:I like how everyone of you start your arguments for eroding the 2nd amendment with this sentence
We need to protect the 2nd amendment but
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:24 am to boxcar willie
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Perhaps a limit to ammo strength along with limiting magazine capacity ( or limiting to bolt action rifles and single shot pistols) would be one way to attack this problem.
So dumb
Would law enforcement have to comply with this?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:25 am to BACONisMEATcandy
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This is not exactly true. Machine guns have been banned from private possession since 1986, except for those legally owned and registered with the Secretary of the Treasury as of May 19, 1986. According to one estimate, as of November 2007, there were approximately 182,600 machine guns available for transfer to civilians in the United States based upon an audit of the ATF-maintained National Firearms Registry and Transfer Record (NFRTR).
Which part of this disagrees with what I said?
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:25 am to Centinel
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ou're taking away access to firearms. That's infringement you jackass.
we should not limit access to firearms but seems reasonable to require classes and licensing a long with a thorough back ground check of anyone purchasing a firearm and for anyone who already owns firearms. Also need a better tracking system of firearms and a data base of owners of firearms, which should be reregistered periodically.
Posted on 2/22/18 at 10:26 am to NYNolaguy1
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You can still buy and keep the guns you want?
And if private owners are not selling?
How exactly does a new gun buyer get access to firearms?
This entire line of reasoning is asinine and you damn well know it.
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