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re: Russian Interference in the election?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:58 pm to Navytiger74
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:58 pm to Navytiger74
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If you're still neck deep in that part investigation and not yet prepared to draw firm conclusions, why would you roll out half-baked conclusions? And why would you hold off on revealing firm conclusions pertaining to other parts of the investigation just because they aren't as significant as the parts of the investigation that you aren't prepared to draw conclusions on?
Sure, okay. And, just so I'm clear, in your opinion this is more logical and/or more likely than there being nothing else really significant here as it might relate to actually implicating the Trump campaign?
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Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:58 pm to Navytiger74
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Navytiger74
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Because he concluded that revealing these indictments wouldn't jeopardize other parts of the investigation? Just a guess.
on the same token, why expose your hand and roll out unicorn defendants?
quote:If these are the only info ops crimes/indictments in this investigation, sure. Trump's team would be free and clear of campaign involvement in this part of the investigation.
if you do reveal these crimes, you're basically admitting that they're completely separate from any ongoing investigation that means that any association b/w Trump (and his campaign) and the "social media" stuff is effectively closed now
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so we're going from serious crimes (treason) to wishful crimes (obstruction of justice) to non-crimes (collusion) to attempted non-crimes?
So you're saying there's a chance?
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:03 pm to Navytiger74
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If these are the only info ops crimes/indictments in this investigation, sure.
that's about as safe as an assumption as you can make today
these indictments came back through payments made to outlets like FB. if the investigation showed its hand with other dangling Defendants who used the same methods, they're exposing their investigation methods to allow those Defendants to cover their tracks
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:07 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:It's clear that there is no logical basis for inferring that today's indictments, and their exclusion of witting Trump campaign involvement with these 16 actors, totally precludes a finding of collusion in other parts of what happens to be a very expansive investigation.
Sure, okay. And, just so I'm clear, in your opinion this is more logical and/or more likely than there being nothing else really significant here as it might relate to actually implicating the Trump campaign?
The fact that I get to piss in everyone's pond about the whole thing is just, como se dice? Lagniappe.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:08 pm to Navytiger74
So, is that a yes? 
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:10 pm to Navytiger74
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The fact that I get to piss in everyone's pond about the whole thing is just, come se dice? Lagniappe.
This has made you emotional and not objective. Scale it back.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:12 pm to NIH
I didn't really understand the statement in the context of the discussion at hand. Oh well, c'est la vie.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:12 pm to NIH
quote:Are you even following? Let me know if you need help. We don't have shite going on today and I'm planning to just skate until I leave.
This has made you emotional and not objective. Scale it back.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:13 pm to NIH
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This has made you emotional and not objective. Scale it back.
Poor guy was sooooooo sure.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Russian Interference in the election?
quote:
These indictments are serious business.
for potential war with Russia? yes
for Trump? no
[[quote]
for potential war with Russia? yes
for Trump? no
Don Jr meeting with the Russians, in and of itself,
could amount to an element of collusion.
But face it, you guys have decided you're all in for YTrump. There is absolutely nothing that could come to lih=ght that would convince you to remove his penis from your mouth or your anus.
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:14 pm to VOR
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Don Jr meeting with the Russians, in and of itself, could amount to an element of collusion.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:14 pm to VOR
quote:
Don Jr meeting with the Russians, in and of itself,
could amount to an element of collusion.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Bro you're a black Aggie. Take it easy.
TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:15 pm to VOR
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Don Jr meeting with the Russians, in and of itself,
could amount to an element of collusion.
i have been asking for this for like 3 pages now. how did the Trump campaign collude, assuming they obtained this knowledge about Hillary? what did they do with it? what steps did they take to proliferate it?
collusion requires cooperation. being told information is not enough to "collude" with the person communicating the information
*ETA: before today the Trump campaign working with this social media scheme was the easiest path to legitimate collusion, especially since they relied so much on social media in their advertising. now that's effectively off the table
This post was edited on 2/16/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:15 pm to VOR
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Don Jr meeting with the Russians, in and of itself, could amount to an element of collusion.
Good freaking lord this is sad
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:16 pm to Navytiger74
Read your first posts in this thread. They were full of anger. Blame Honest Bob, not this board.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:16 pm to VOR
quote:
Don Jr meeting with the Russians, in and of itself,
could amount to an element of collusion.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i have been asking for this for like 3 pages now. how did the Trump campaign collude, assuming they obtained this knowledge about Hillary? what did they do with it? what steps did they take to proliferate it?
They're just flailing now.
It's hilarious.
I'm just gonna sit and enjoy the show and laugh occasionally.
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