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re: Trey Gowdy Rebuts Trump ‘Vindication’ Claim: Memo Has No Impact on Russia Probe
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:45 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:45 am to Robin Masters
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I think everyone understands that the “probe” (whatever that means, I find it odd he didn’t say investigation but I digress) must reach its normal conclusion otherwise this country might be torn it two.
This is a sound and reasonable stance.
Let's just let the thing finish (without obstruction) and let's all accept the outcome.
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:46 am to tigerinDC09
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Moving the goalposts I see.
Nope not at all. quote:Says the fools that claimed the piss dossier was center to the collusion for fricking months.
Now YOU are saying the dossier doesn't matter. Hmmm
I have always said the piss dossier was garbage.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:47 am to tigerinDC09
Trey WROTE the memo with Nunes. Trey has been telling the media well before the release that it's NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INVESTIGATION!
Sorry you have not been listening.
Sorry you have not been listening.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:48 am to tigerinDC09
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let's all accept the outcome.
The left is never going to accept the outcome. They've gone close to schizophrenic trying to justify and explain away the Nunes memo.
They will absolutely claim that Mueller's investigation was compromised by the GOP/Trump Administration and that despite zero evidence of wrong doing, Trump conspired with foreign nations to steal the election.
You can bookmark this post.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:49 am to Rover Range
quote:Russia let one of it's citizens talk to someone, that Hillary Clinton had paid to go to Russia and find someone/anyone in a coffee shop, who thought if he has a dream that dream would be that Trump would pee in a bed in Russia that Bill Clinton didn't frick Hillary in, because Hillary was mad at Bill because Bill was banging interns in the White House in 30 years ago.
Can you articulate for me what exactly Russia colluded WITH Trump on?
Clear and Present Danger by Trump
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:49 am to Antonio Moss
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Gowdy is correct but that in no way invalidates the seriousness of the FISA scandal and corruption of the DNC and major agency heads under the Obama administration.
And Gowdy has been saying that well before the memo was released!
It's like the left just woke up!
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:49 am to bamarep
Gowdy: "There is a Russia investigation without the dossier". Loosely translated, they do indeed have a stool.... with 2 legs. Now go do the right thing.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:51 am to tigerinDC09
quote:
This is a sound and reasonable stance.
Let's just let the thing finish (without obstruction) and let's all accept the outcome
Sure. As long as the left agrees to stop colluding with the FBI to fabricate evidence
And public narrative.
Given that the best our investigatory bodies can come up with is inconsistent testimony of some minor actors I think the outcome is all but established at this point. If there were anything of substance Trump would have been brought down with the quickness.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:52 am to tigerinDC09
quote:Surely you could link at least one article.
There's a whole google available for that, but there's no point. You will just yell Fake News no matter what I list or link to.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:52 am to tigerinDC09
Trump is in the clear, but by all means please continue the impeachment fantasy in your head.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:52 am to Rover Range
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But who will you be linking? CNN, WAPO, Huffpo, MSNBC articles? I mean they've been implicated in several collusion situations with the DNC and Hillary campaign. How can you trust them? This is not rhetorical.
Ok, do you trust the New York Times?
Their reporting on the genesis of the russia investigation has now been confirmed by the nunes memo.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:55 am to Robin Masters
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Sure. As long as the left agrees to stop colluding with the FBI to fabricate evidence
And public narrative.
What evidence has been proven to be fabricated?
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Given that the best our investigatory bodies can come up with is inconsistent testimony of some minor actors I think the outcome is all but established at this point.
Ah, so you know exactly what Mueller knows, fill us all in!
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:56 am to TrueTiger
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Trump is in the clear, but by all means please continue the impeachment fantasy in your head.
Trey Gowdy just laid out the significant avenues of investigation, I guess he's fantasizing huh?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 10:58 am to tigerinDC09
Again, the main issue is more systemic than political or criminal (although there may be charges eventually). The issue is the merits and even constitutionality of the entire FISA application process and the opportunity for abuse of power (which Congress should address). FISA seems ripe for abuse, whether we find nefarious behavior here or not. The hyperbolic political environment makes things harder to figure out for certain on that front.
The issue is more Rand Paul than Devin Nunes.
The issue is more Rand Paul than Devin Nunes.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:03 am to tigerinDC09
Yea I trust the New York fricking Times. Lol get the frick out of here
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:03 am to Nono
Something is going on with Gowdy. Anyone and everyone would draw a nexus between the people involved in the FISA Fiasco and those in the Russian Dream. They would also point to the lack of evidence. Gowdy is doing an about face and I'm curious why.
Dec 11 2017
"Gowdy contends he still is hopeful Mueller can be fair in his investigation. He told McCallum, “I do, but I have got to confess to you, and I understand who think I’m wrong. I got an email last night from a friend back home saying, ‘Look, Gowdy, let go of the prosecutor stuff.’ I still think that Mueller can produce a product that we all have confidence in, but things like this, make it really difficult, the perception is, is every bit as important as the reality, and if the perception is, you’re employing people who are biased, it makes us really difficult for those of us that would like to defend the integrity of former prosecutors.”"
Then
Jan 17 2018
"“Nothing, there is no evidence of collusion between Donald Trump and the Russians, between the Trump campaign and the Russians, even between, frankly between hangers-on and wannabes on the campaign,” Gowdy responded. “Now we’re not through interviewing witnesses, but the only person who says he’s seen evidence of collusion is Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), and somehow or another, he saw it before we even began.""
Dec 11 2017
"Gowdy contends he still is hopeful Mueller can be fair in his investigation. He told McCallum, “I do, but I have got to confess to you, and I understand who think I’m wrong. I got an email last night from a friend back home saying, ‘Look, Gowdy, let go of the prosecutor stuff.’ I still think that Mueller can produce a product that we all have confidence in, but things like this, make it really difficult, the perception is, is every bit as important as the reality, and if the perception is, you’re employing people who are biased, it makes us really difficult for those of us that would like to defend the integrity of former prosecutors.”"
Then
Jan 17 2018
"“Nothing, there is no evidence of collusion between Donald Trump and the Russians, between the Trump campaign and the Russians, even between, frankly between hangers-on and wannabes on the campaign,” Gowdy responded. “Now we’re not through interviewing witnesses, but the only person who says he’s seen evidence of collusion is Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), and somehow or another, he saw it before we even began.""
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:03 am to tigerinDC09
You understand that this memo is about something far more serous???
The memo is about the abuse of government power for political purposes? The abuse of government power to spy on an American citizen?
Gowdy is right and you miss the big issue.
The memo is about the abuse of government power for political purposes? The abuse of government power to spy on an American citizen?
Gowdy is right and you miss the big issue.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:03 am to tigerinDC09
He also said he has seen zero evidence of Russian collusion with Trump or the Trump campaign...
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:04 am to Mohican
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Again, the main issue is more systemic than political or criminal (although there may be charges eventually). The issue is the merits and even constitutionality of the entire FISA application process and the opportunity for abuse of power (which Congress should address). FISA seems ripe for abuse, whether we find nefarious behavior here or not. The hyperbolic political environment makes things harder to figure out for certain on that front.
The issue is more Rand Paul than Devin Nunes.
Here's what completely breaks your argument.
The HOUSE and SENATE just voted to re-approve FISA w/ NO REFORMS!.
Knowing that there were these "awful abuses", why would Nunes and Ryan push for a clean renewal with no changes?
I think I know why... Because the Nunes memo is just a misleading political document, that's why.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:05 am to Nono
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Honored to be downvote #1
Downvote patrol!
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