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re: Trey Gowdy Rebuts Trump ‘Vindication’ Claim: Memo Has No Impact on Russia Probe

Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:07 am to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:07 am to
What is the email from Cambridge analytica?

I love how jbird attacks OP as if OP was quoted and not Trey Gowdy
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:07 am to
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Something is going on with Gowdy. Anyone and everyone would draw a nexus between the people involved in the FISA Fiasco and those in the Russian Dream. They would also point to the lack of evidence. Gowdy is doing an about face and I'm curious why.


Here's a theory... He saw some damning evidence and decided he can no longer defend Trump.

He figured the only way he could be freed from the right-wing conspiracy theory echo chamber is to not run again. So now that he's not, he can speak freely.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73446 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:09 am to
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I love how jbird attacks OP as if OP was quoted and not Trey Gowdy
I never attacked anyone, simply pointing out the like that stood fast with the piss dossier have within hours tossed it aside.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:10 am to

quote:

What is the email from Cambridge analytica?

I love how jbird attacks OP as if OP was quoted and not Trey Gowdy


LINK

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The Trump campaign hired Cambridge Analytica in June 2016 to help target ads using voter data collected from approximately 230 million US adults. The firm's CEO, Alexander Nix, reached out to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange that month to offer help in finding Hillary Clinton's "missing" emails.

It is still unclear how much Cambridge Analytica actually did for the campaign. But Trump campaign aides and even current and former Cambridge employees have consistently tried to downplay its role.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29820 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:17 am to
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What evidence has been proven to be fabricated?


Head of investigation received $700k from HRC which I’m nonpartisan circles should be cause enough to implode the credibility of investigation but add in the Steele involvement, the dossier, the yahoo article and McCabe saying the dossier was fabricated and the reason for the entire FISA warrant without which you wouldn’t even have a case. Be objective for once, there is overwhelming reason, opportunity and evidence to suggest that HRC found a way to wiretap Trump and then contrived a “Russian” narrative to skew voters. To date there is zero evidence that Trump colluded. You are holding on to a pipe dream.

quote:

h, so you know exactly what Mueller knows, fill us all in!


I know he knows, the credibility of his entire investigation is Severely damaged and if he had even a shred of evidence against Trump it would be released to revive his case and get public opinion back on his side.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:18 am to
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Head of investigation received $700k from HRC which I’m nonpartisan circles should be cause enough to implode the credibility of investigation but add in the Steele involvement, the dossier, the yahoo article and McCabe saying the dossier was fabricated and the reason for the entire FISA warrant without which you wouldn’t even have a case. Be objective for once, there is overwhelming reason, opportunity and evidence to suggest that HRC found a way to wiretap Trump and then contrived a “Russian” narrative to skew voters. To date there is zero evidence that Trump colluded. You are holding on to a pipe dream.


Trey Gowdy disagrees.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:20 am to
Man what a big boom.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29820 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:23 am to
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Trey Gowdy disagrees


Link?
You can agree the investigation should continue and also think the underlying premise is flawed. I want the investigation to continue so Trump will be exonerated by the very people who the left claimed would bury him. Wanting the investigation to continue = /= You think Trump is guilty.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29820 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:25 am to
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he Trump campaign hired Cambridge Analytica in June 2016 to help target ads using voter data collected from approximately 230 million US adults. The firm's CEO, Alexander Nix, reached out to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange that month to offer help in finding Hillary Clinton's "missing" emails.

It is still unclear how much Cambridge Analytica actually did for the campaign. But Trump campaign aides and even current and former Cambridge employees have consistently tried to downplay its role.



And? Is this supposed to be something?
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:28 am to
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Trey Gowdy disagrees.


with himself
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10983 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 11:36 am to
Dense; that's what you are...
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34946 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:30 pm to
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1. He confirms that the dossier had no impact on the start of the Russia probe so that talking point is now officially dead.


Mmmm huh...I'm sure that the FISA Warrant App won't include the Steele Dossier.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
3230 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:38 pm to
Dude. He's not getting thrown out of office. It's not going to happen. Even Strzok, who was part of the investigation, said there's no there there.

The only card Mueller has left is perjury.

The investigation has screwed itself. There are too many players with questionable loyalties who have become unreliable witnesses. If the prosecution botches a source in its investigation or obtains a warrant under false pretenses, like the dossier, it clouds the rest of their sources. There's too much reasonable doubt here.

There could be a smoking gun, but we've yet to see it.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17472 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:41 pm to
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Can you articulate for me what exactly Russia colluded WITH Trump on?


This is exactly the right point that needs to be hammered home again and again. After a year of digging and millions of dollars waisted there is not 1 single instance “collusion” between Trump’s team and the Russians.

This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Mmmm huh...I'm sure that the FISA Warrant App won't include the Steele Dossier.
That wasn't the genesis of the Russia probe
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1609 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:04 pm to
Or- there is a Russian collusion investigation, but it has nothing to do with Trump or his surrogates.

Mueller will continue his investigation, which is on a totally separate path than when it began. Like say, it took a LEFT turn.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
GEAUX TIGERS!
Member since Sep 2007
6507 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:06 pm to
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So.... 1. He confirms that the dossier had no impact on the start of the Russia probe so that talking point is now officially dead. 2.Trey Gowdy just laid out all of the main points of investigation and their worthiness of investigation. 3. Everyone who called the main stream media stories about Papadopoulos, Cambridge Analytica, and obstruction of justice being fake news... Well you just look silly.


I hate to break it to you but Gowdy on Chris Wallace specifically states that "Mueller is investigating TWO components: a criminal component (Trump collusion) & a counter intelligence component which no one talks about because it isn't sexy enough". What Gowdy is saying is that even though there is no Trump collusion, Mueller needs to continue to investigate the Russian meddling into our 2016 election. Which, btw, could certainly lead to Clinton/DNC/Obama admin--->I added that part, not from Gowdy.

Furthermore, Gowdy also said that 50 dems have TWICE voted to impeach Trump when Trump hasn't even testified yet & that Adam Schiff (ranking member of intel comm) stated he had evidence of collusion BEFORE even beginning an investigation. Gowdy said he doesn't think Trump has a fair jury but he has a fair investigator in Mueller. Personally, I have little faith in that though.

He further talks about the memo & how erroneous info was that FBI used to gain FISA. He says the memo is DEFINITELY NOT a hit piece on the FBI. He confirms that the dossier was used. He also mentions that Strozk interviewed Hillary Clinton even though they showed so much bias that Mueller kicked them off his investigation. So yes, that investigation is tainted (not in those exact words).
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13496 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:07 pm to
tigerinDC09 Nice smoke and mirrors deception!

The spin runs deep in this one. DC is your natural environment.
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1. He confirms that the dossier had no impact on the start of the Russia probe so that talking point is now officially dead.

No the Dirty Democrat Dossier was the official start of muh Russia, as per McCabe testimony revealed in the memo.

There is a separate investigation by Mueller (based on political fallout of muh Russia started by Dirty Democrat Dossier). The memo does not have anything to do with Mueller’s investigation, so now the DNC/MSM Political Complex narrative of memo attacking Mueller probe is “officially dead”.
quote:

3. Everyone who called the main stream media stories about Papadopoulos, Cambridge Analytica, and obstruction of justice being fake news... Well you just look silly.

tigerinDC09, “Would you believe the old throw in a little truth to hide the big lie dodge?”

Papadopoulos, a little insignificant former Clinton wannabe playing at wannabe big man Trump associate. True.
Cambridge Analytica, so far, fake news if presented as anything other than a nothing burger. First lie.
obstruction of justice, so far a baseless claim of DNC/MSM Political Complex that is a nothing burger,with a side of fried bullshite, and Dirty Democrat Dossier tainted poison fruit ketchup.

Bon appetite!
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

No the Dirty Democrat Dossier was the official start of muh Russia, as per McCabe testimony revealed in the memo.

No, it wasn't. And there was no McCabe testimony in the memo

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21605 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 1:11 pm to
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There's a whole google available for that, but there's no point. You will just yell Fake News no matter what I list or link to.


If that's the case, why are you posting so much in this thread? Some people aren't going to believe you no matter what, right?

If you're going to waste the time posting, you might as well explain what Russia and Trump colluded about. I mean, outside of being unable to seeing as there's no evidence so far...
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