re: MLB teams won't sign players they don't want to pay for...

it should also be stressed that the players played a big part in this happening. they allowed the new CBA to make an entirely new environment for teams in free agency by essentially establishing a salary cap that everyone wants to stay under this winter

So sick of pro athletes.

There are tons of professions where people aren't paid what they're worth. Medical interns.

Law associates bringing in all the dough for the partners but getting paid like shite.

This is bubble syndrome. Athletes growing up in the athlete bubble.

Everybody else who makes money for the higher ups has to suck it up but athletes want the entire pie.

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You do realize there is no substitute for professional athletes right? Like we can dream about a 'Replacements' occurring, but in the end, these are the best of the best.

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For some reason, John Q. Public always chooses to identify with management in pro sports labor disputes. People mostly bitch about players making too much money, but rarely acknowledge the fact that ownership makes at least as much.

These aren't exact numbers, but the Dodgers make $462M in revenue. $275M of that goes to the players so that would be divided by say roughly 40 people. Minus operating expenses, the organization nets $166.5M. There are 5 major partners in the ownership group.

Who's coming out on top, the 5 guys who don't do much other than be rich splitting $166.5M or the 40 guys who actually produce the product being consumed splitting $275M?

Yeah the issue is this, in a collectively bargained labor agreement, certain expectations of revenue sharing are agreed upon. If you are telling players that you will maintain control of their playing location and salary for the first 6 years of their career, a time when they are paid substantially less than their market value, but, if you're good enough, you can make it up later, you have to keep that promise.
Does it make sense to pay a 30+ year old pitcher $20 million for the next 8 years? Only if you agreed to do so in the beginning.
The current system doesn't work well for either side right now. Team's recognize the folly of back ending large contracts. Players realize that they are getting screwed in their first 6 years. A major shake up of the salary system is likely on the way which means that we are likely in for some kind of labor stoppage in baseball, soon.

Time for Vince to start up XLB.

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These aren't exact numbers, but the Dodgers make $462M in revenue. $275M of that goes to the players so that would be divided by say roughly 40 people. Minus operating expenses, the organization nets $166.5M. There are 5 major partners in the ownership group.

Who's coming out on top, the 5 guys who don't do much other than be rich splitting $166.5M or the 40 guys who actually produce the product being consumed splitting $275M?

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Why would anyone want to be part of management or ownership if it wasn't profitable.... frick the players are well paid, better paid than probably 90% of the population in relation to what they actually do. The players union agreed to the current deal, the players should be pissed at their union and not ownership.

Yep, I don't want the Cubs signing either Jake or Yu on an extended contract. Would live to have either one of them but only on a short deal.

Managers have just gotten smarter and they are actually looking at the advanced stats and using that information.

MLB fricked the Marlins, they just wanted Jeter to own the team without seeing what the actual plans for the team were. I do think they will institute a penalty (loss of draft picks) for teams that fail to spend a certain amount on salary in the future.

Then at least teams will negotiate with their own players to reach the floor and maybe sign a few others to even it out.