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re: The GOAT - Michael Jordan or Tom Brady? Who is the greatest athlete of all-time?

Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by Undertow
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:29 pm to
Ditka
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 8:36 pm to
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Michael Jordan or Tom Brady? Who is the greatest athlete of all-time?
In what way are these two in the same league in terms of athleticism?
Posted by lsugolf1105
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 9:12 pm to
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He is not even the best golfer of all-time.


Yeah, ok
Posted by WreckinRams05
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 9:26 pm to
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Its a good argument but I find it hard to believe hockey has the same concentration of talent a sport like basketball does. Basketball is REALLY popular and a lot of great talents aren't even good enough to get to the NBA. I'm not saying hockey is easy, but you don't have near the talent pool and it would make sense a guy like Gretzky could stand out so far in a small talent pool. Soccer in the US is a great analogy. Why does US soccer suck? Because our best athletes typically play other sports growing up while in other countries soccer is the only sport kids grow up playing.


That’s true when it comes to the south, but almost all Yankees pick up a hockey stick at some point in their life and give it a shot. Europe has world class players as well and at one point hockey was the #2 most played sport in the world.

One simple stat for Gretzky that is mind blowing is that he has more assists than any other person in the history of the game has total points(assists+goals)

He has almost 1000 more points than jagr(current #2) and he has been playing since around 1992. Gretzky played from 79-99 and 5 less seasons than jagr and is still that much ahead. Also played when hockey was a low scoring sport compared to today’s game
This post was edited on 1/27/18 at 9:36 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 9:41 pm to
Michael Phelps
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:04 pm to
The Greatest GOAT (G-GOAT?) of All-Time is Wayne Gretzky and it’s not close.

Football doesn’t even have a true GOAT.

MJ was great, but never Gretzky great.

Nicklaus is a solid GOAT, but he has some good competition in Arnie and Tiger.

The only other GOAT close to Gretzky is Babe Ruth.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:12 pm to
Football’s true GOAT is Jim Brown: dominant football player, dominant athlete as a whole, dominant lacrosse player, dominant actor, dominant activist and organizer THE GODFATHER and there is none higher
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:34 pm to
In terms of actual athleticism it would be someone in combat sports. My choice would be Anderson Silva.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:37 pm to
Gretzky- Hockey
Ruth- Baseball
Jordan-Basketball
Phelps-Olympics
Louis-Boxing
Nicklaus-Golf
Rice-Football
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:40 pm to
Ali not being GOAT in boxing immediately invalidates that list cmon now
Posted by WreckinRams05
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 10:48 pm to
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Ali not being GOAT in boxing immediately invalidates that list cmon now


A case can be made for Lewis. Dude dominated his competition
This post was edited on 1/27/18 at 10:49 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 1/27/18 at 11:06 pm to
AND Willie “Mr. 5-Tool” Mays isn’t GOAT for baseball?! What is this crap? LOL
Posted by Houma Sapien
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:06 am to
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In terms of actual athleticism


Well if that's the road we're going down it would be an Ironman competitor.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:13 am to
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Well if that's the road we're going down it would be an Ironman competitor.
No definitely not
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:29 am to
You're right. It's just 140 miles. Cakewalk.
Posted by LanierSpots
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:26 am to
Greatest Athlete - Bo Jackson



Best Goat - Tom Brady


MJ is not even the Goat of his own sport


Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:41 am to
Louis was a technical master but Id still take Sugar Ray
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 8:43 am to
Mighty Mouse
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:42 am to
one thing we can all agree on is that Gretzky is on any GOAT athlete list and it's not debatable.
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:48 am to
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Tom Brady is not a "great athlete".


There's a reason every other country calls them "sportsmen" instead of athletes. It just opens up a whole can of worms. After all, how can you compare someone like Usain Bolt to Michael Phelps in terms of athleticism? The skills and disciplines required for their sports are completely different.
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