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re: Construction Management: Industrial and Commercial

Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by JGood
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
795 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:45 pm to
Go to the first CSA meeting in the fall semester. That's gonna be who you wanna work for
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4363 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 1:56 pm to
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You forgot the actual big companies


If those companies werent big, which companies do you consider to be “the actual big companies”?
Posted by RodFarva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Jun 2015
581 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Posted by RodFarva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Jun 2015
581 posts
Posted on 1/24/18 at 3:21 pm to
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Any of the big BR companies are great places to intern. MAPP, Cajun, Stuart, Arkel, Lemoine's BR Office, ISC, Group. All those are great. You forgot the actual big companies


Says the guy who thinks Stuart is big.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64410 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 10:35 am to
Construction Project Management 101:

Contractors need a purchase order to begin the work.

Contractors need drawings to finalize the quote for the purchase order to be issued.

If you can manage these two items, you will be in the top 1% of all construction project managers.



Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:26 am to
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If I was you, I’d definitely go the industrial route


Go to school!

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I did 2.5 years at LSU majoring in Construction Management. Ended up getting a awesome summer job 1 year and never went back. Now I’m the Maintenance Manager over all the units in the plant I work in and I just turned 34 years old. It just takes a lot of hard work, sacrifice and time but it’s been well worth it. I was in the right place at the right time and put work in. I’m very blessed.



So, don't go to school?

Just hire this jamoke as a laborer and make him your protege.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4568 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:42 am to
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I have a bachelor's in engineering from LSU and I am currently working as a helper on a turnaround. ????


quote:

Biological


You've overachieved baw! Climb that mountaintop with the teeth of your pipe wrench.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98479 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 11:45 am to
The big money is in sales. Latter and Blum has an opening.
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
229 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:07 pm to
Haha yep, I'm always trying to stay positive
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53306 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:09 pm to
A lot of butthurt engineers will chime in in here because they're mad they couldn't cut it in construction management and had to switch to engineering
Posted by Beradrebel
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
194 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:12 pm to
I love these threads because everyone talks smack against commercial vs industrial.

I won't talk smack but rather tell you my path so you can collect more info to help steer your decision.

I graduated with an Industrial Technology degree with the concentration in supervision. I made $80k my first year out of college. Made less the second year because of less OT. 10 years later I cracked the $200k mark. $50k of it is from OT and alot of the OT is by choice. I'm a planner scheduler for major projects. I started out in project controls doing estimating, cost, scheduling etc.. but I enjoyed scheduling the most. I can work in engineering offices or I can work in the field. When I did project controls at a major engineering firm, I can tell you I made more than the majority of the engineers and the exceptions were only to senior engineers and engineering managers.

There is a lot of money in industrial. You don't even have to be a PM to make good money. Most PM's come up through the ranks of project controls.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:15 pm to
Be ready to put in hours once you start working.
Posted by Brazoria Bengal
Your Wildest Dreams
Member since Nov 2016
112 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:28 pm to
Industrial. Learn Primavera, SAP, Advanced Excel. Work out of town for a couple years then go international. Reap the benefit$$$
Posted by Tubedog13
Member since May 2009
3507 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:30 pm to
I started as a laborer for a home builder right out of high school as a summer job before college. Dropped out of college after one year while still sweeping homes and assisting field superintendents doing "their dirty work". Worked my way up to field super and project manager over the years. Now at 42 I'm vice president. You don't need college to do this as long as you're motivated, patient, earn your keep, and willing to learn.
Posted by Brazoria Bengal
Your Wildest Dreams
Member since Nov 2016
112 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:32 pm to
I would agree but the pre-reqs for most Management roles these days require a degree. The tide has turned against field hands moving up.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7775 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64410 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:38 pm to
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I would agree but the pre-reqs for most Management roles these days require a degree. The tide has turned against field hands moving up



I would say it depends on the economy.

When business is booming, the foremen and GC's are making alot more money than the PM.

When business is slow, the steady paycheck of the PM is more attractive and you'll see more former field hands moving into vacant positions.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31661 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:40 pm to
yea if you want to work for a home builder you don't need a degree. But if you want to work for one of the big boys or really have a shot at a decent job for the first 10 years or so you do.
Posted by DillyDilly
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2017
5 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
Coming from a graduate of CM and working in the industry, that number is not fudged. It is pretty accurate.
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
862 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 12:46 pm to
Go for industrial. It's a more stable route IMO and pays well. Also, you get to travel a lot if that your thing. Granted, you get to travel to a bunch of out the way shite towns but it's still fun nonetheless.
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