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Full amnesty has to be off the table for Republicans
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:19 am
yes, the kids had no choice in coming to America...yet they can't get a free pass. I would let them stay, but they'd have to get in line with all the others already in the process of trying to get legal immigration status. We can do more to mainstream the vetting system so it doesn't take as long to get immigration status worked out.
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Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:20 am to hsfolk
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Full amnesty has to be off the table for Republicans
Democrats will settle for nothing less.
It's the future of their party.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 11:20 am
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:21 am to hsfolk
They gotta go back
And fricking stay
And fricking stay
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:21 am to member12
Dems are sad
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:21 am to hsfolk
No amnesty
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:23 am to bamarep
LMAO... please sweet Baby Jesus, let them stick to their guns on amnesty for all these poor dreaming kids...
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:26 am to hsfolk
While trying to have empathy for DACA kids as other humans, what message does that send to all of the people who have spent their time, efforts and resources in legally immigrating here? What about the tens of thousands (millions?) on the waiting list to even have a shot to come here?
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:30 am to RemyLeBeau
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While trying to have empathy for DACA kids as other humans, what message does that send to all of the people who have spent their time, efforts and resources in legally immigrating here? What about the tens of thousands (millions?) on the waiting list to even have a shot to come here?
They get what they deserve. No empathy for them.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:34 am to hsfolk
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We can do more to mainstream the vetting system so it doesn't take as long to get immigration status worked out.
Deportation for any and all who have been in trouble with the law, or illegally received government benefits meant for Americans.
Before someone says that's too harsh, remember that is forgiving the thousands spent educating each one, along with the thousands in healthcare spent on each one.
If they've received government benefits, their parents have proven at least twice that they don't respect the country that they now want their children to be a citizen of. If they have been in trouble with the law, it shows the lesson of disrespecting this country taught by their parents, was absorbed.
That should knock down the list to a more manageable number of worthy applicants, who can now get in line behind all those already doing it the right way.
This post was edited on 1/22/18 at 11:36 am
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:39 am to hsfolk
I’m so tired of hearing that they had no choice. What fault is that of mine? Are we in turn supposed to reward them? Legal status or citizenship is as much a win for their parents who brought them here illegally as it is for the so called dreamers.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:39 am to hsfolk
quote:Green Cards. Not citizenship. No voting rights. They can apply for citizenship just as any Green Card holder can.
I would let them stay, but they'd have to get in line with all the others already in the process of trying to get legal immigration status.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:40 am to hsfolk
If I break in to Disney World with my family and get caught my kids don't get to stay.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:43 am to hsfolk
I don't know the solution, but I don't feel good about our government making promises, then re-negging on them because of a change in leadership.
Most definitely.
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We can do more to mainstream the vetting system so it doesn't take as long to get immigration status worked out.
Most definitely.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:44 am to NC_Tigah
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Green Cards. Not citizenship. No voting rights. They can apply for citizenship just as any Green Card holder can.
The next bargaining chip will be full citizenship. 2028-"You do want to extend the Trump tax cuts right? Well this is part the bill." We all know Dems will use this every chance they get to play the party opposing them as heartless.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:45 am to NC_Tigah
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Green Cards. Not citizenship. No voting rights. They can apply for citizenship just as any Green Card holder can.
For DACA only. The problem is Obama made a deal with them albeit through an E.O. The DACA people willingly compiled so I think there should be a solution there although I want it limited to basically Green Card status. I do not want voter enfranchisement for DACA
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:46 am to hsfolk
Full amnesty and path to citizenship coupled with real immigration reform (e-verification, end chain migration, etc) seems to be the only way this gets ironed out.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:48 am to hsfolk
quote:What kids? You mean the 4 kids who came in with the millions of full grown reconquista assholes?
yes, the kids had no choice in coming to America
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:51 am to SUB
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I don't know the solution, but I don't feel good about our government making promises, then re-negging on them because of a change in leadership.
Which is why Obama should have faced impeachment for the unconstitutional action that was DACA, number one. The POS president decided to make his own immigration law, with his pen and his phone.
Number two, DACA stands for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals. Nobody promised they were good to go, free and clear. We just didn't deport them immediately, like we should have. The action was deferred until a later date. That date is here.
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:58 am to DavidTheGnome
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Full amnesty and path to citizenship
the Dems will cave because the alternative is that the clock runs out and we start deporting
Posted on 1/22/18 at 11:58 am to hsfolk
Amnesty has to be on the table. The path to citizenship will be the sticking point. I'm sure the Dems want it now (bc votes) but that is very unfair to those who waited their turn around the world.
They should have a path to citizenship but at the back of the line.
And none of this without serious immigration reform to make sure this never has to happen again.
They should have a path to citizenship but at the back of the line.
And none of this without serious immigration reform to make sure this never has to happen again.
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