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LSU has a real problem with all the Jr's leaving every year.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:29 pm
1st) Ask yourself. If we have 6 guys leaving early because they are suppose to be top round draft picks. Why the hell are you losing 4 games a year?
2nd) You will never build depth when you have so many players leaving early.
3rd) What are UGA, Bama, Clemson etc coaches telling their players to mitigate this issue for their respective teams? Why isn't our coaching staff able to do the same?
Now, I'm not talking about never having a Jr. leave, I'm talking about only having 1st or 2nd round guys leave. weathersby, clapp, toliver, chris faulk, Freak, Dupree etc make no sense. These are the players you need to come back. The superstar's you should expect to leave. For some reason, this is more of an lsu problem than most universities.
If you can't fix this problem, you will never play for championships.
2nd) You will never build depth when you have so many players leaving early.
3rd) What are UGA, Bama, Clemson etc coaches telling their players to mitigate this issue for their respective teams? Why isn't our coaching staff able to do the same?
Now, I'm not talking about never having a Jr. leave, I'm talking about only having 1st or 2nd round guys leave. weathersby, clapp, toliver, chris faulk, Freak, Dupree etc make no sense. These are the players you need to come back. The superstar's you should expect to leave. For some reason, this is more of an lsu problem than most universities.
If you can't fix this problem, you will never play for championships.
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Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:30 pm to dos crystal
sounds like LSU has an issue with coach's properly utilizing talent. sounds like it has been an issue for a while now too.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:32 pm to dos crystal
shocked guys aren't itching to come back for the possibility of playing a game in Orlando, Houston, or Nashville....maybe even Tampa who knows
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:36 pm to dos crystal
Its an amazing problem to have. WTF are you smoking?
Do you honestly think Clapp would be leaving if the thought he wasn't going to get drafted? He is a projected 2nd - 3rd round pick FFS.
You are acting like Bama doesnt have anyone leaving. They have 5-6 juniors already announced with 4 more days for others to decide. We have more players in the NFL than any other team in college football.
Its not like these players are leaving the team to go work at walmart. Some of you need to get some perspective.
Do you honestly think Clapp would be leaving if the thought he wasn't going to get drafted? He is a projected 2nd - 3rd round pick FFS.
You are acting like Bama doesnt have anyone leaving. They have 5-6 juniors already announced with 4 more days for others to decide. We have more players in the NFL than any other team in college football.
Its not like these players are leaving the team to go work at walmart. Some of you need to get some perspective.
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:38 pm to dos crystal
Let the downvotes come. But, I don't think we recruit the smartest student-athletes. The playbook has always had to be dumbed down and we always seem to get stupid penalties. I think these guys are just not college material and want the heck out after they have served their time.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:40 pm to dos crystal
It's an amazing problem to have given the level of talent but we don't (and really don't expect to) play for championships any more so they bolt.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:41 pm to dos crystal
bama had THREE redshirt seniors in its starting 22 vs UGA. and one of those was a 5 star.
Eight more starters were either SRs or RS JRs. in others words, half of the starting lineup had been there 4 or 5 years.
on defense alone, they had three seniors who were all top 15 overall prospects in HS (Da'Shawn Hand was 5, Tony Brown was 9, Rashaan Evans was 14).
Eight more starters were either SRs or RS JRs. in others words, half of the starting lineup had been there 4 or 5 years.
on defense alone, they had three seniors who were all top 15 overall prospects in HS (Da'Shawn Hand was 5, Tony Brown was 9, Rashaan Evans was 14).
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:44 pm to dos crystal
quote:
Alabama’s Minkah Fitzpatrick, Da’Ron Payne, Bo Scarbrough and Ronnie Hamilton are going pro.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:45 pm to dos crystal
quote:CFB is criminal. Ask anybody
LSU has a real problem with all the Jr's leaving every year.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:45 pm to dos crystal
Well if you look at the early entrants #'s are pretty similar...
Early entrants:
2017:
LSU-6
AL-5
2016:
LSU-4
AL-5
2015
ALABAMA-3
LSU-1
2014
LSU- 3
ALABAMA-3
Early entrants:
2017:
LSU-6
AL-5
2016:
LSU-4
AL-5
2015
ALABAMA-3
LSU-1
2014
LSU- 3
ALABAMA-3
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:49 pm to dos crystal
welcome to every single NCAA football team in 2017, its the new normal so you just have to get used to it.
the only jr's that dont declare for draft are ones that wont draft high and have a chance to up their draft stock with a great senior year
the only jr's that dont declare for draft are ones that wont draft high and have a chance to up their draft stock with a great senior year
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:50 pm to dos crystal
His has been a selling point to recruit for years now. Come to LSU, look how many guys we put in the NFL. This is nothing new. It’s been a problem for years.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:52 pm to dos crystal
They all have their share of departures. It’s recruiting and development of players. LSU has not had any players developed since 2007. We have had extremely talented players but their development really started after they left LSU. LSU won many times on talent inspite of Les Miles.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:15 pm to dos crystal
With the most players this year in nfl on starting rosters, and in top 3 at least for the last 5 years, why nothing to show for it? Just how long will LSU pull in this level of talent when they don't compete for anything? My opinion is this talent level starts to drop off because players want to win. Other schools will start to pillage Louisiana talent.
Herman, Fisher could starting taking a bigger cut of that talent.
Herman, Fisher could starting taking a bigger cut of that talent.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:15 pm to dos crystal
This is LSU, players leave early, this is nothing new. Why are you shocked by this?? Lol Big time programs lose their players early after their 3 years is up, hell, if the NCAA wasn't forcing them to stay 3 years, a lot would leave just after 2 years. But big time programs just reload and it's next man up or next 5,4,3 star player up, and the program rolls on. LSU had a lot of young players play this past season and should have still won every game except for Miss st. and Alabama. Should have finished 11-2 instead of 9-4, but....
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:19 pm to dos crystal
quote:Been saying this for years. Building dominant teams requires team stability. Bailing early for the NFL does not build team stability.
1st) Ask yourself. If we have 6 guys leaving early because they are suppose to be top round draft picks. Why the hell are you losing 4 games a year?
2nd) You will never build depth when you have so many players leaving early.
3rd) What are UGA, Bama, Clemson etc coaches telling their players to mitigate this issue for their respective teams? Why isn't our coaching staff able to do the same?
And contrary to popular opinion, this is not as widespread on all elite teams as it is claimed by some juveniles here. And it is a fairly recent trend, having gone rampant in the CLM years. LSU has a real problem building a depth of experience and skill that is essential for truly consistently successful programs. But hey! Show me the money!
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:19 pm to dos crystal
I'll bet you LSU doesn't have this problem in about 2-3 years.
Cause the juniors won't be very good
Cause the juniors won't be very good
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:20 pm to dos crystal
I've seen this type of post multiple times lately. It's bullshite and not supported with facts.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:22 pm to dos crystal
That's bullshite. Every team loses true or RS juniors every year. Can't blame them for pursuing their dream which will make them a lot of $$$$$. 
Posted on 1/11/18 at 2:24 pm to dos crystal
All starts with the head coach. Would you pass up millions to come back for 8-4?
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