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re: "The Players Went Wild When E was Announced!"
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:28 am to BasilBogomil
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:28 am to BasilBogomil
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Serious Question: in these types of situations, the promotion of someone already on staff, have you ever heard of the players not approving?
Probably not, but my opinion is based upon the assumption that the players approved and were happy about the move, rather than silent and questioning the move. The argument being made is it should be a good thing and not turned into a negative that the players like the move.
The immediate responses to the post were approval doesn't mean it was a good hire, and that the players shouldn't control the hiring. Neither of these things were asserted. Only that it is good that the players liked the move instead of questioned the competency of the coach to help them achieve the goals I believe they want.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:29 am to stealthy1
I don't know how I've been bitchy in this thread.
But what I meant was that your post about fan opinions was not my logic. Saying that the players reaction shouldn't carry weight into the hiring decision and saying the fans opinion should determine the hire are 2 completely individual statements. I made the former, and you created the latter to argue against.
But what I meant was that your post about fan opinions was not my logic. Saying that the players reaction shouldn't carry weight into the hiring decision and saying the fans opinion should determine the hire are 2 completely individual statements. I made the former, and you created the latter to argue against.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:30 am to pizza
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The argument being made is it should be a good thing and not turned into a negative that the players like the move.
The immediate responses to the post were approval doesn't mean it was a good hire, and that the players shouldn't control the hiring. Neither of these things were asserted
Reread the OP. This is literally what the thread was about from the start.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:33 am to TH03
Fair enough. I was defending my post and arguments, not that foolish line of thinking
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:37 am to justice
Players loved Miles for sure.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:37 am to pizza
All I am saying is that player approval is a given in these circumstances.
I've never heard of players running down an inside hire, ever.
But, I guess it is a good thing that LSU didn't become the first.
I've never heard of players running down an inside hire, ever.
But, I guess it is a good thing that LSU didn't become the first.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:39 am to timlan2057
I'm not buying the players want him because they like him angle.
Players want to win. To me, that would come first and everything else is a distant second place.
If the players are excited about Ensminger I would first think that they think he's the best chance to win.
Players want to win. To me, that would come first and everything else is a distant second place.
If the players are excited about Ensminger I would first think that they think he's the best chance to win.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:42 am to timlan2057
Hell I know when I played HS football our Head Coach was forced into retirement. We were a perennial playoff team often ranked very high while I was there. We all were mad and didnt like what was happening to him.
Many players wanted one of the assistants to take over.
Instead they hired someone from the college ranks that was the father of an incoming frosh. I barely follow my old team anymore but they play now for state titles almost yearly. Including the first year he coached. If I had to guess they won at least 6 titles since that change.
Players dont like change and do not see past their playing career at any level.
Many players wanted one of the assistants to take over.
Instead they hired someone from the college ranks that was the father of an incoming frosh. I barely follow my old team anymore but they play now for state titles almost yearly. Including the first year he coached. If I had to guess they won at least 6 titles since that change.
Players dont like change and do not see past their playing career at any level.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:44 am to Mr. Hangover
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FWIW our top WR recruit, Terrace Marshall loves the Ensminger hire and knew about it BEFORE he committed
Good God
So there was no search and the whole coaching is a charade on the university.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:44 am to ccomeaux
All I was saying is that players liking the offensive coordinator (NOT CHOOSING THE OC) should hold more weight than the fans hating it - frick, Marshall knew it was going to be him BEFORE he signed, and still signed.. that’s enough for me to know that the players are OK with it.. a 5 Star wouldn’t throw away his opportunity if he thought the offense would completely tank
Tbh, I didn’t even read the OP - I just assumed this was a nega vs posi battle and came out swinging lol
Yea I got mad, so what? I’m just sick of the negativity, that’s all
Tbh, I didn’t even read the OP - I just assumed this was a nega vs posi battle and came out swinging lol
Yea I got mad, so what? I’m just sick of the negativity, that’s all
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:45 am to themunch
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there was no search and the whole coaching is a charade on the university.
Wtf does this have to do with what I said? You’re misdirecting your frustration ma’am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:49 am to themunch
I know, I said that already.. now answer the question.. what does your comment have to do with what I said?
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:50 am to TH03
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The players should not be in charge of coaching decisions and their reaction shouldn't be given any weight.
Neither should yours. In what way are rantards any more qualified than players.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:50 am to Mr. Hangover
Folks were upset that Canada might have said he would not be there. It is now good that SE was said to be taking over before it happened. I am glad the team will play for this man. I am sure they all have a great relationship of coach and player. This hiring is a mess and you know it. I am not being negative just realistic about what transpired here.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:52 am to Adajax
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Neither should yours. In what way are rantards any more qualified than players.
I'll give you $500 if you can show me where I've made this claim in this thread.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:53 am to themunch
I don’t disagree with most of what you said, I’m just trying to figure out wtf your comment was supposed to mean bc it had nothing to do with what I said
You just took one of the rant’s complaints and tried to fit a square peg into a round hole
You just took one of the rant’s complaints and tried to fit a square peg into a round hole
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:54 am to Mr. Hangover
No it shouldnt
Its far more important that a player respects their coach than liking their coach.
The fans will be here long after many of the football players run off to the NFL. They absolutely should have a voice and use it.
Should non season ticket holder LSU alumni have more say than non alumni season ticket holders?
What about Ex player's? Do they have a voice?
How does this whole who has a say ranking work for you?
Its far more important that a player respects their coach than liking their coach.
The fans will be here long after many of the football players run off to the NFL. They absolutely should have a voice and use it.
Should non season ticket holder LSU alumni have more say than non alumni season ticket holders?
What about Ex player's? Do they have a voice?
How does this whole who has a say ranking work for you?
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 10:58 am
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:57 am to 225Tigah
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He is a good person but the question is in all honesty could he really coach?
this is all that should matter.
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:58 am to timlan2057
We were promised the best Co-ordinators. This is not it.
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