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Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?

Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:45 am
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:45 am
Barkley is probably the best player in the draft and they have another pick at 4. I doubt he last until the fourth pick, so why not just take him first overall?
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:46 am to
Because they're the Browns
Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Barkley is probably the best player in the draft and they have another pick at 4. I doubt he last until the fourth pick, so why not just take him first overall?


I don't usually like the "rules" about drafting certain positions at certain picks, but drafting an RB first overall seems like a bad idea. Even if it seems like a once in a generation type talent (which I don't think Barkley is)
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:47 am to
Shelf life. And they could trade down to 5and still get him. Or they could take him with their other high pick.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 9:49 am
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:47 am to
He looks like another Trent Richardson to me.

Hopefully they take him.
Posted by kkhere
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:47 am to
Have you seen the Browns QB play the last 2 years?
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:48 am to
Feel like they could be tempted to do that if Darnold really does go back

I know this board doesn't believe in Darnold, but he and Rosen really are the only ones worthy of that pick from a QB perspective and Rosen has made it clear he doesn't want anything to do with Cleveland
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:48 am to
quote:

He looks like another Trent Richardson to me.



Not sure if serious.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:50 am to
Not a terrible idea depending on how they feel about the QBs. If they feel think very highly of Darnold or Rosen you have to take then one because you chance them not being there at 4. If they are indifferent about the difference between them or Mayfield or Allen I think your strategy is right.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24243 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:50 am to
Drafting a QB with the top pick is too risky of a proposition for a franchise that sucks across the board. Go with a 'sure thing' that has less volatility than the QB position.

Trading back is the correct answer because they need multiple bodies.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:50 am to
they should sign kapernick, cousins, foles, or some veteran

not a new qb
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:50 am to
they need to do the smart thing and take orlando brown the ot from OU #1. one of the qb's will fall to #4.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:51 am to
you only take Barkley if Sam Darnold's teammates didn't attend his birthday party
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:51 am to
Or get Guice, Chubb, Sonny, Love, or any number of runningbacks later in the draft and get greater production relative to the round they were selected.


Getting an offensive or defensive lineman or QB with the first pick (not saying that either is immune to risk) and one of those players at a later point in the draft is worth more than getting Barkley at #1. Any one of the above might be as productive as Barkley, or the drop off will be marginal in terms of how many extra wins you can get.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:53 am to
RB is a fairly disposable position in the current NFL.

They don’t have a long shelf life and there is a history of lower picked (and unpicked) RBs putting up huge numbers as well as high RBs flopping.


They can take him but all it takes is one bad cut for him to pull a KiJana Carter, blow out one or both legs, and never be the same again.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:56 am to
Am elite QB anchors a team for 2 decades. See Brady/Manning/Brees/Favre.

Am elite RB, especially an elusive one, gives you 5-8 elite years and then becomes a journeyman. See Tomlinson/CJ2K.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:58 am to
An elite OL can anchor a team for about as long as a QB.

Joe Thomas is doing that for Cleveland now but he is getting older and finally starting to get injured.

Maybe they should be figuring out how many year Thomas has left and getting a tackle to play opposite from him and eventually transition over to left tackle.
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Trading back is the correct answer because they need multiple bodies.



This is always the case, but how realistic is it?

Who's looking to trade up?
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
9485 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:12 am to
They have the 1st, 4th, 33rd and 37th picks. Do they really need to trade down? Get top talents with those picks imo

PLUS, they already have a TON of young players and they have a lot of picks this year (like 30 players on rookie contracts or some crazy shite). If they have any more they're gonna have to cut some. It might actually be better for them to trade some of their picks up and get top players instead of adding 18 rookies or whatever
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96817 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:17 am to
It depends who the top prospects are and who declares.

The Giants, Broncos, and Jets need a QB but the Giants have little reason to move up from 2 if Darnold and Rosen declare. And both the Broncos and Jets pick after Cleveland’s second pick.

I only see Indy moving if they fall in love with a lineman and want to jump the Giants to get him.

The Bucs, at 7, are pretty far down to be looking at a trade up to 1 unless they fall in love with a guy like Minka Fitzpatrick and pay a king’s ransom to trade.


Best case scenario? Allen is the only top tier QB due to Darnold and Rosen returning to school and teams are sold on him as a franchise guy. At that point you have the Giants, Jets, and Broncos budding on a trade up to first.
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