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Jester
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Because running backs aren't worth that pick in today's NFL.


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oleyeller
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
I am huge on barkley. But drafting a rb is crazy. Their shelf life is so short. Rbs are a dime a dozen. You can find value later in the draft. I think the browns should go after cousins and draft all defense. That is how you build a team fast, oline and defense. Heck browns have 2 very good rbs imo.


tduecen
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Only if they draft a lineman at 4


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WaterLink
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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I am huge on barkley. But drafting a rb is crazy. Their shelf life is so short. Rbs are a dime a dozen. You can find value later in the draft. I think the browns should go after cousins and draft all defense. That is how you build a team fast, oline and defense. Heck browns have 2 very good rbs imo.


They have a pretty good defense already, especially up front. They need to shore up the OL, improve the secondary, and get a 2nd WR option to Gordon and move Coleman to #3. Also need to use that cap space to get Cousins or a vet QB and keep Kizer as the backup.

If I have their picks, I use the first on a receiver and the 2nd on the OL. Use my 2nd round to get a corner, another OL, and maybe a TE. This assuming they sign a vet QB. Browns have no luck with rookie QBs, they need a proven commodity and they have the money to do so.


High C
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Cleveland outrushed their opponents by ~150 yards on ~80 fewer carries. They also had >1 average yards per carry than their opponents. That's huge. Barkley is not even a need.

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StupidBinder
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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Have you seen the Browns QB play the last 2 years?


We’ve definitely seen it. In fact we’ve seen a decade and a half of terrible QB play despite using pick after pick in the top two rounds on QBs.

It’s not working. They need to draft other positions.


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TROLA
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
It's amazing how they are in a perpetual need for players in so many key positions.. they need to trade down again and build a solid base on one side of the ball..


castorinho
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Coleman can be a #2. If he ever stays on the field.


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Mahootney
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Bc Barley isn't even the best RB in the draft this year.... much less worthy of a top 10 pick.

Draft defense, defense, defense, defense, and maybe O-lineman.

Then sign a veteran QB. Browns could be 8-8 and respectable.


teke184
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
It’s a failure of the front office to identify players who have talent AND fit the system they are running.


They need to hire a better head of scouting at the least.

Look at the turnaround the Saints have done the last few years since hiring Jeff Ireland as their head of college scouting. Their 2017 draft is probably one of the best drafts in team history and certainly their best since the 2005 season when they got Bush, Evans, Colston, and other centerpieces of the rebuild.


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StupidBinder
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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Draft defense, defense, defense, defense, and maybe O-lineman.

Then sign a veteran QB. Browns could be 8-8 and respectable.


Exactly. There is no reason a team with this much draft capital should perpetually be this terrible...

...except for the fact that they keep wasting said draft capital on the annual “Aaron Rodgers II is right around the corner” QB lottery.
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TH03
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
The offensive ROTY is a third rounder at RB


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jimithing11
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21807 posts

re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
They don’t know how to correctly use Crowell/Duke J as it is now...what makes you think they could manage a horse like Barkley?


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nicholastiger
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Look what Fournette has done for Bortles and the Jags this year. If there is a can't miss RB in top 10 it's a no brainer.


devils1854
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Member since Aug 2014
3071 posts

re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Browns dont need defense, defense, defense. 16th in DVOA, 14th in yards a game, 7th in rush defense, 19th against the pass, and 21st in sacks. Thats with playing a few very young guys.

The offense is what needs to be addressed.

1.QB-Darnold/Rosen
4.OT-Orlando Brown/Mike McGlinchy
33.RB-Guice/Chubb/Love
37.DB-Carlton Davis/Donte Jackson/Joshua Jackson


McCaigBro69
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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Look what Fournette has done for Bortles and the Jags this year. If there is a can't miss RB in top 10 it's a no brainer.




I agree to an extent. Jacksonville and Dallas both had built up other parts of their team that they felt adding an elite RB would compliment their team massively and it worked out for both of them.

The Jags had a dominant defense and adding LF7 compliments that, just like having Zeke helped compliment their o-line.

I think there is a time to take a RB early in the 1st round, but Cleveland has so many glaring weaknesses that I think they should look elsewhere in this situation.


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oleyeller
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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QB-Darnold/Rosen
4.OT-Orlando Brown/Mike McGlinchy
33.RB-Guice/Chubb/Love
37.DB-Carlton Davis/Donte Jackson/Joshua Jackson



qb can be addressed in FA
OT- draft
rb-their rbs are plenty good enough
-db- draft


Mahootney
Florida State Fan
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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Exactly. There is no reason a team with this much draft capital should perpetually be this terrible... ...except for the fact that they keep wasting said draft capital on the annual “Aaron Rodgers II is right around the corner” QB lottery.
It's unbelievable.
They refuse to learn their lesson. Even "sure-fire" QB locks like Luck don't always have the careers that will lift your franchise to championship levels.

Hell, Brees, Rodgers, Warner, Favre, Young, Unitas only have 1 SB.
And Manning, Manning, Starr, Roethlisberger, Staubach, and Elway only have 2.
What fricking good does it do to have an all-time great at QB if he is surrounded by crap?
Same goes for Barkley or any other RB.


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Bham Bammer
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2014
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
Because Alvin Kamara and Kareem Hunt.


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chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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re: Why wouldn't Browns take Saquon Barkley first overall?
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...except for the fact that they keep wasting said draft capital on the annual “Aaron Rodgers II is right around the corner” QB lottery.
Rodgers fell to the 20s... The example you're probably thinking of is JFF and he fell into the 20s
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