re: Bama having a chance to win a title with this resume = the whole system is broken

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Nah, if we're doing this correctly you take the 4 best resumes not who you think the 4 best teams are.

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correct, but they (committee) keeps reiterating that it's the four best teams.

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The Seahawks were 7-9 with a -97 point differential

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The ability to identify the anomaly doesn't make it less subjective.

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If you don't think the Giants were clearly better, that's a you problem. The GIants were better in the regular season, that IS a fact.

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I wasn't comparing the Giants to the Seahawks. I was referring to the Giants team that went 9-7 and ended up in the Superbowl.

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Yes, they were clearly worse than at least 4 teams. That doesn't prove me wrong in any way though, not sure what your point is.

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That's actually THE point. You CANNOT "prove" it either way. It's a pretense to say otherwise. Prior to their playoff run, you could have EASILY cited a shite ton of stats to "prove" they didn't deserve to be in. Only hindsight makes those "proofs" real.

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Sometimes like in 2010 when the 7-9 Seahawks made the playoffs, all 4 of the teams in the division were shite and none of them deserved to go to the playoffs but we made this arbitrary rule with arbitrary divisions that said a losing team got to go to the playoffs...flawed but we close our eyes and try to make excuses for those flaws instead of calling them what they are...flaws in a system.

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Again, that's the nature of OBJECTIVE win and you're in systems.

It's silly to cite an anomaly to invalidate a system. Meanwhile, EVERY YEAR in college football is completely subjective and unprovable.

If anything, the system is broken because the #1 seed got completely manhandled by a team this board thinks doesn't deserve to be there.

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So, as I said, the NFL has the same flaws as CFB, but we protect and coddle and support the NFL system while bashing CFB,

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Big difference between the two systems.

In the NFL, aside from a rare year wear 1 division is extremely weak the teams with the top 6 records are making the playoffs in the NFC/AFC.

In the NFL, if you win you get into the playoffs. Very simple formula with zero questions about who will or won't go in.

Playoffs should be based on results. Win your conference, get into the playoffs. Don't win your conference, better luck next year.

Until they reward teams for winning conference titles there will never be a true champion.

Using an "eye test" to decide is a horrible metric. Punishing teams for reaching a title game is insane.

NFL playoffs are way better in every conceivable way.

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Do you remember all those years the Saints didn't make the playoffs before the wildcard was implemented despite the fact we were likely the #2 NFC team behind the 49ers?

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You mean wildcard " expanded" to 3 teams for awhile before expansion?


There were always 2 wild cards per Conference during the 1980's 49ers run. Same as present.

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You seriously claiming this while being a Bama fan is hilarious.

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Go ahead and link any one of my posts that shows me to be an Alabama fan.

This is what I'm talking about. I don't like Alabama, but I'm capable of being rational and objective. You hating Alabama prevents you from being rational and objective.

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Actually it's mathematically and statistically impossible to make the playoffs with only 5 wins so that's not a really a valid point.

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I'm not even sure that's true. The falcons beat the saints and panthers twice and split with the bucs. Lose every other game. The other 3 teams all completely go 1-1 against each other. All 4 teams lose all of their non-division games. Falcons have 5 wins, bucs have 3, saints and panthers have 2. What am I missing?

Regardless, change 5-11 to 6-10 or 7-9, whatever the mathematical minimum is. The point is it's possible in the NFL for a team to lose the majority of its games and make the playoffs, while teams with much better records get left home. And you think this is some infallible system for determining a champion.

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Yet.

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And after 2 consecutive years on a non conference, non division champion making the playoff there thankfully appears to be no end in sight for that line of thinking.

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You say that like parity is a bad thing when it's what made the NFL so fun to watch and insanely profitable.

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No, I say that like a team that loses the majority of its games in a league that is designed to not have built in advantages or disadvantages for any teamis not deserving of making the playoffs. Your lack of reading comprehension due to your anti-Alabama melt is astounding.

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You have a better idea then that could make them billions of dollars more money?

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I'm fully aware that there are possibilities out there and am not guaranteeing the system "will never change and is set in stone"

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Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

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In the past 12 hours you've argued Alabama destroying Clemson is further proof that they didn't belong in the cfb playoff, that Ohio st was the 2016 big 10 east champions, that 2016 Ohio st was "co-champions" of their division but 2017 was not even though they had the exact same data points, that a playoff system that rewards a 7-9 team over a 10-6 team is a good thing, that the NFL playoff system has never changed, and many other legitimately retarded things. Do you know what the word ridiculous means?

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No matter how many times you tell us you aren't, we all know its gnawing in the back of your heads that Bama had to depend on the subjective reasoning of a committee to make the playoffs at all.

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There is nothing happening in the back of my head. But it's quite clear all of the Alabama fans on here and the Alabama football team are completely devastated by the situation you described. The posters can't stop talking about it, and the team rolled over and died on the field last night.

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And more playoff games could make them even more money with an NFL style format for 6-8 teams.

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So more playoff games = more money you say. Do you think the NFL adding more playoff games would make them more money? That can't be possible. They already have the perfect system in place making the maximum amount of money possible, according to you.

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And you still bitch about the NFL awarding championship titles the same way a college conference does.

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And you still don't understand that the system to award conference titles is not the same as the cfb playoff.

Based on reading comprehension and a minimal amount of intelligence.

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And that's based on completely flawed and subjective reasoning from "A committee" that may or not be influenced with bias towards a program with blue blood status like Alabama.

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The committee thought Alabama was 1 of the 4 best teams in the country. Go ahead and argue otherwise after the results of last night.

Once again, your claims could actually be legitimate if you used Ohio st instead of Alabama. They were the first team selected with the data points you are bitching about. Their game result proved they were unworthy of selection. But you don't do that because you don't really care about the system. You only care about the team you don't like that the system chose this year. Which has, is, and will continue to make your analysis flawed, subjective, and influenced by bias as you continue your melt.

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I know it sucks but a system like that is not built to stand the test of time like the NFL format does as it first used the current format back in 1978 and has never changed. Meanwhile the college championship format has changed like 3 times in that time frame.

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Oh, so now it's 1978 that is the origin of the NFL playoffs that have never changed. I guess the first NFL championship in 1933 never happened. Neither did 1967 when they introduced a 4 team playoff. Or 1970 when they moved to 8 teams.

And since it's never changed since 1978, who were the additional 2 playoff teams from 1978-1990 that appear in literally none of league records?

Bama's best win this year was either against an LSU team that lost to Troy/Miss State by 30, or a 4-loss Mississippi State team that they beat by the skin of their teeth.

They closed the season with an FCS team, a loss, and a literal no-show in their conference championship game.

Their best OOC win was a Florida State team that was only bowl eligible due to an overlooked technicality.

They did not win their division or conference. They were sitting at home while other teams had to fight for their spot on the field - not because they earned a bye, but because they lost.

...And they are playing for a national title.

If that script A wasn't on the side of their helmet, they'd be playing in the Peach Bowl.

Yet here we are. Again.

This system is pretty absurd and honestly it just makes the whole sport less fun. (Not so much Bama, but the way we pick champions.)

Alabama had one of the top offenses and the top defense in the SEC this year. One loss. They weren't going to get left out.

Does bias play a role? Does the brand? One would be naive to say no, but to say Alabama didn't deserve to be in the playoff requires such a disconnect from reality. I mean, their defense completely ripped Clemson apart.

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Does bias play a role? Does the brand? One would be naive to say no, but to say Alabama didn't deserve to be in the playoff requires such a disconnect from reality. I mean, their defense completely ripped Clemson apart.

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Again, the point is lost once you recognize:

Does bias play a role? Does the brand?

Bama got a week off to get healthy and scout, while Clemson had to beat Miami in order to maintain their place in the playoff. Same goes for UGA, OU, etc, who also had one loss going into the final weekend.

Three of the four current teams in the playoff almost met Auburn, Wisconsin, and Miami's fate: Lose your CCG, and you are out. They had to play the extra game and that extra game HURT them.

That doesn't make sense.

As for them beating Clemson last night, good for them. They got a second chance 100+ other programs would never get and they made good on that mulligan AGAIN.

That's the problem many have with this, and rightfully so. It is a clear double standard, and the system is telling everyone that there are a certain group of teams that play on a different playing field than anyone else. Not only are they on a different playing field, but it is nearly impossible to eliminate them from playoff contention.

System is not anywhere near perfect but they are a top 4 team should have been in and proved it.

Damn those Bama players looked jacked up on "deer antler spray" frick


Should go to 8 teams cause these bowls are insane. But ppl will still complain