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re: Bama having a chance to win a title with this resume = the whole system is broken

Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:55 pm to
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Not only are they on a different playing field, but it is nearly impossible to eliminate them from playoff contention.
It is really hard to eliminate Nick Saban and his amazing roster?

Who would've thunk it?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 12:57 pm to
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Completely agree and why college football will always be a joke. The way a champion is crowned is a political race, not sport. And Alabama always has and always will be the most corrupt of all.



If I didn't know better, this board would have be believing that Alabama was a 3 loss team this year and in 2011.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 1:07 pm to
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If I didn't know better, this board would have be believing that Alabama was a 3 loss team this year and in 2011.


It really is unbelievable. And it would only happen on THIS board with THAT team. Any other team, as we saw last year, would not elicit this magnitude of reaction. Yet they all bitch about "bama bias"

It would've been really great if this was truly like last year, with Auburn actually winning the seccg and Alabama still getting selected over them.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:09 pm to
Technically, Bama tied for the division.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:10 pm to
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It would've been really great if this was truly like last year, with Auburn actually winning the seccg and Alabama still getting selected over them.


This.
Posted by The Quiet One
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:17 pm to
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It's why the NFL playoff format is much superior


Using NFL playoff format, Alabama is the SEC West champion and should have advanced to the SECCG.

[Kermit tea gif]
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 2:17 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 2:43 pm to
Holy shite, I didn't even realize you started this estrogen-filled embarrassment


Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Actually it's mathematically and statistically impossible to make the playoffs with only 5 wins so that's not a really a valid point.


Actually I'd like to revise my answer on this to further illustrate the absurdity of thinking the NFL system is infallible. Your statement 100% false. Additionally, it is mathematically and statistically possible for all 4 teams in a division to go 0-10-6, and one of them will make the playoffs based on tiebreakers.

But you keep on keeping on about the utopia that is the NFL playoffs and mathematical impossibilities.
Posted by Geauxlden Eagle
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:06 pm to
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Technically, Bama tied for the division.


Technically, they didn't.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50229 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 3:20 pm to
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It is really hard to eliminate Nick Saban and his amazing roster?


Of course it is.

And had Bama been one of another 100+ programs in CFB, their loss that prevented them from being a division champ would have eliminated them from playoff contention.

I know you recognize my overall point, but choose to ignore it.

Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:12 pm to
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Go ahead and link any one of my posts that shows me to be an Alabama fan.



Actually you not being a bama fan doesn't make it any better here.

Someone that claims to be rational and objective would not hold the homer views that you do.

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I'm not even sure that's true. The falcons beat the saints and panthers twice and split with the bucs. Lose every other game. The other 3 teams all completely go 1-1 against each other. All 4 teams lose all of their non-division games. Falcons have 5 wins, bucs have 3, saints and panthers have 2. What am I missing?


Nothing and that's why I said it's statically impossible in addition to being mathematically impossible.

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Regardless, change 5-11 to 6-10 or 7-9, whatever the mathematical minimum is. The point is it's possible in the NFL for a team to lose the majority of its games and make the playoffs, while teams with much better records get left home. And you think this is some infallible system for determining a champion.


Each division is like it's own mini league and whoever the best of those four teams is deserves a playoff spot and home game.

It's infallible because it's based on math and not flawed human reasoning with a touch of politicking in it like the CFP.

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And after 2 consecutive years on a non conference, non division champion making the playoff there thankfully appears to be no end in sight for that line of thinking.




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I say that like a team that loses the majority of its games in a league that is designed to not have built in advantages or disadvantages for any teamis not deserving of making the playoffs.


That's not what you said.

Oh and a league that is designed to not have built in advantages/disadvatages is what makes the NFL a good product that's insanely profitable. It's fair and each team has to make their own fortune or rather misfortune.

That's kind of different from getting handout mulligans.

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I'm fully aware that there are possibilities out there and am not guaranteeing the system "will never change and is set in stone"




Then by all means share those possibilities with 32 billionaires. They'll accept it if it improves quality of play and makes more money.

Good luck.

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t 12 hours you've argued Alabama destroying Clemson is further proof that they didn't belong in the cfb


Not what I said.

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that Ohio st was the 2016 big 10 east champions, that 2016 Ohio st was "co-champions" of their division


That's what I said.

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a playoff system that rewards a 7-9 team over a 10-6 team is a good thing, that the NFL playoff system has never changed,


Yep. That's what I said.

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Do you know what the word ridiculous means?


Do you?

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So more playoff games = more money you say. Do you think the NFL adding more playoff games would make them more money? That can't be possible.


Sure, that can happen as well and they would just keep on using the same playoff format they use right now.

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And you still don't understand that the system to award conference titles is not the same as the cfb playoff.



And that's precisely my point as to why the CFP system sucks and is not built to withstand the test of time.

Any playoff system that's not based in math and is completely dependent on subjective reasoning with a hit of politicking is not a credible playoff system.

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Go ahead and argue otherwise after the results of last night.



I already told you that Bama could win the CFP games by 70 points for all I care. It doesn't make their body of work for admission into the CFP any better.

I don't care.

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Their game result proved they were unworthy of selection.


Cool.

Retroactive results being added to the resume is not what I'm arguing. Why do you keep fricking this up?

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And since it's never changed since 1978, who were the additional 2 playoff teams from 1978-1990 that appear in literally none of league records?


Expansion teams.

Dude, the wild card format was first introduced in 1978 and has been a constant in the 40 years since. The number of teams may expand and the seeding of the format may be tweaked to accommodate the expansion but the principles still stay the same as it's a system based in math.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Additionally, it is mathematically and statistically possible for all 4 teams in a division to go 0-10-6, and one of them will make the playoffs based on tiebreakers.


So your argument against the NFL system is based on something that has never happened and has a one in a quadrillion chance of happening?



Dude, at least I'm arguing against events in College Football that has actually happened.

Lame.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83392 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:15 pm to
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Actually I'd like to revise my answer on this to further illustrate the absurdity of thinking the NFL system is infallible. Your statement 100% false. Additionally, it is mathematically and statistically possible for all 4 teams in a division to go 0-10-6, and one of them will make the playoffs based on tiebreakers.

But you keep on keeping on about the utopia that is the NFL playoffs and mathematical impossibilities.
boom.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:16 pm to
NFL system is just... better.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110590 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:17 pm to
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NFL system is just
Different but with similar flaws.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:18 pm to
Says the LSU fan. I'm SHOCKED.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:18 pm to
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NFL system is just... better.

Only 32 teams though.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83392 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:18 pm to
Nuh uh
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:18 pm to
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And had Bama been one of another 100+ programs in CFB, their loss that prevented them from being a division champ would have eliminated them from playoff contention.

The same way Ohio State was eliminated last season?

Here's the difference.. They got absolutely embarrassed against Clemson, Bama did the embarrassing this year.

You're an admitted college football conspiracy theorist. It's amazing to watch people like you melt because the committee put the correct team in the playoff, and that team proved it on the field.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/2/18 at 6:18 pm to
NFL system just means... more.
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