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The main problem is not O

Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6902 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:35 am
Is the idiot that hired him. Until he is around LSU Football will not reach its potential again.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83351 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:36 am to
get rid of O in the process please
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:37 am to
Well it’s the whole bunch actually
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78514 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:40 am to
Well idk

Alleva could probably hire a better HC and then be a better AD
You can’t make O a better HC by firing Alleva.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
10881 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:40 am to
I see the cold weather has brought in the next wave of stupid posts.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107548 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:41 am to
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The main problem is not O by r2d2


You done stepped in it now.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15801 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:41 am to
I've always hoped for the best with O, and Alleva I guess. This debacle has really hit a nerve with me though. There are endless examples of coaches putting their personal differences aside and working together for the betterment of the team. It can be done.

I'm upset that Orgeron doesn't understand this, and I'm even more upset that Alleva is letting it happen. I just pray that Orgeron has an even better offensive mind lined up to take over. If you make a lateral move at OC, or god forbid you downgrade, that's a huge blunder.
Posted by Skarr
Lake Charles
Member since Jun 2014
2 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:49 am to
Why are we just bashing one coach when we should be bashing both of them and also our AD for letting this happen in the first place. All of LSU family should be embarrassed by our coaches acting like children.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6902 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:49 am to
quote:


Alleva could probably hire a better HC and then be a better AD
You can’t make O a better HC by firing Alleva.


Alleva has made so many stupid mistakes: Miles fiasco 2015, Duke situation, his handling of the Florida game 2016. The guy is a national joke. Its more accurate to say he could luck into a better hire, but he isn’t getting any better.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:53 am to
Yeah I’ve seen enough. O isn’t smart enough to know how to manage someone who disagrees with him. I have to do it in my line of work all the time. He is going to fail.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
70811 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:54 am to
The issue is LSU's administration is straight up incompetent on every level
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13081 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:54 am to
Only one of these coaches is actually charged with managing the football program. Only one is talking about a coordinator moving on to another school. and while I cannot prove it, I am certain that only one of the two is leaking information to the press public designed to undermine the OC.
Plus, we can fire Canada and hire someone equally talented, but this will not address the lack of management skills, lack of maturity and judgment of the HC. Those issues pose the bigger danger to LSU football than the selection of an OC.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 10:56 am to
Yaw yawhhhhrrr yawww
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4802 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Skarr Lake Charles Member since Jun 2014 1 post


quote:

Why are we just bashing one coach when we should be bashing both of them and also our AD for letting this happen in the first place. All of LSU family should be embarrassed by our coaches acting like children.


Solid 1st post.

In other news, that's some serious lurking you've been doing since 2014. Impressive.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27571 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:03 am to
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Is the idiot that hired him. Until he is around LSU Football will not reach its potential again.



Hanagriff made an astute observation after the Troy loss when callers were out for blood. He didn't comment directly on Alleva's job security if Orgeron tanks. All he said was in the history of LSU, ADs have only gotten one football HC hire.

Leads me to believe Alleva and O's futures at LSU are linked.
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:06 am to
quote:

All of LSU family should be embarrassed by our coaches acting like children.


WTF are you talking about? It appears that Coach O wants to upgrade his under-performing and ill tempered/insubordinate OC of which there is a reason that he has had 4 jobs in 4 years. This is normal stuff in coaching, and you are demonstrating your ignorance of the sport and ins and outs of annual coaching changes. ZERO to be embarrassed about except allowing idiots like you to get your stupid messages out on this board.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4802 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:13 am to
quote:

WTF are you talking about? It appears that Coach O wants to upgrade his under-performing and ill tempered/insubordinate OC of which there is a reason that he has had 4 jobs in 4 years. This is normal stuff in coaching, and you are demonstrating your ignorance of the sport and ins and outs of annual coaching changes. ZERO to be embarrassed about except allowing idiots like you to get your stupid messages out on this board.


You're fool.

O admitted to meddling in the offense leading up to the Troy game. Do you really think that was the first time he did it? Would you be ok with being hired to do a job and then being micromanaged? Particularly by someone who's "expertise" ly on the other side of the ball? It'd be like a CFO trying to tell an engineer how to design something. O should have stayed in his lane in the first place and he likely never would've been in this situation in the first place. Also, it's well documented that O is a bit of a douche bag also.

This all falls squarely on his shoulders.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14613 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:15 am to
None of this would be happening if we'd have brought in C3PO as a QBs Coach.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31700 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:15 am to
"a bit" ?
Posted by Skarr
Lake Charles
Member since Jun 2014
2 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 11:18 am to
Really nothing to be embarrassed about, this looks just like 2015 with Miles. This could have been handle so much better behind closed doors. None of this should be in the papers.
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