re: Any news on Canada

Canada is gone people.

Some of you are dense.

And I have no idea where he is going...just that he won't be OC in 2018.

I want Canada to stay, only for Mike D to be wrong.

I fricking hate Mike D

Warning sign - hiring a high-profile OC @ $1.5M and then running him off the next yr. "But, Canada's a dick! Moves around a lot!" etc. All of which Orgeron knew or should've known before he hired him.

Hot Carl is a moron. He won’t give you actual numbers either. Like 28 points a game is bad or something. Plying sec teams.

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*Freeze is being discussed

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This move solidifies Oregon as HC more than anything else we've seen since he's been hired.

It was a very strange tactic for Orgeron to publicly air his long-running grievance and uncertainty with who his OC will be and his desire to change to an even more conservative type of Offense 3 weeks before the early signing period.

Justin Rogers signs with TCU: Rogers made the obvious prudent choice. TCU knows how to utilize a DTQB and knows the difference between "duel and dual".

Orgeron, along with his designated "future OC in waiting" Steve Ensminger, went in-home with 5-star quarterback Justin Rogers. [b]Canada, not recruiting, only has one commit from July before the season.

2014: How Offense Transformed TCU & ALA into Perennial Title Threats

Patterson's Epiphany: the old philosophy of beating teams 17–13 was not competitive.

No. 6 TCU defeated No. 9 Ole Miss 42-3 to win the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl in 2014. After going 4-8 in 2013 Patterson, like Saban, realized that he had to have an up-Tempo spread offense and win the scoring battle not the defensive battle. Not only did his offense struggle to keep pace on the scoreboard with the rapid-fire offenses in the Big 12, it also couldn’t give the Horned Frogs defense an adequate look at the speed it would face in a game.

After Meacham and Cumbie arrived, the offense and the defense got better. An already excellent Horned Frogs defense went from allowing 4.8 yards a play in 2013 to 4.7 in ’14, second best in the Big 12. Meanwhile, TCU’s record improved to 12–1. The Horned Frogs just missed the College Football Playoff and finished the season by pasting Ole Miss in the Peach Bowl. For that, TCU can thank Patterson, the two coordinators he hired and their shotgun/Tempo/RPO 5 WR sets - empty backfield, no TE, or 4 WR, 1 RB.



TCU went from the 70th Scoring Offense in 2013 to the #2 in 2014 with the # 6 Passing Offense.

Boykin went from nobody to the 9th and 8th rated Passer in 2014-15 throwing for 7500+ yds, 64 TDs up from 7 in 2013, adding 17 rushing.



TCU finished #3, and #7 in AP with a Roster ranked 43 and 39. The total opposite of LSU. Coaching/Offensive Scheme makes the difference. Boykin was a 3 star ATH with a national rank of 734. Now he is working with what looks to be a Top 15 Class and the #2 DTQB, their first 5 Star* recruit ever.

2014, Kiffin: ”Saban told me, ‘we’re not headed in the right direction. This is not where college football is going. As much as he could not stand it, he would not let his stubbornness get in the way of changes that were needed.”

Kiffin installed a more up-tempo, wide-open offense, and the results were remarkable. Alabama was 40-3 and won its last 26 in a row with Kiffin calling the plays. The Tide never averaged fewer than 35 points per game, even though Kiffin worked with three totally different quarterbacks: a WR, a klutz, & a FR. Add FAU and that is 4 in 4 yrs - all winners.

Coming Soon In The New Hit Series, It's Joe Alleva as "THE SEARCH"

Orgeron's No. 1 assignment when he got the full-time LSU job a year ago was to hire a GREAT OC and delegate.

Now, after some acrimonious finger pointing he no longer can stand the OC he had to have at all cost. How embarrassing. He is supposed to be the adult who takes the blame. Some guys are good position Coaches...but not HC Program Builders.

Some ADs are competent and analytical and hire Coaches who are current and contemporary. "I Am The Search" Alleva has not made one successful FB HC hire in 20 yrs. LSU deserves the best legacy hire, not an experiment. Kiffin, Saban, Patterson, Meyer, Swinney have generated Billions in growth. FAU is the size of LSU BR now and ALA has built 62 buildings since Saban was hired. LSU is shrinking, attendance is down, prices are up. And, as of yet, there are no quarterback commitments for 2018, no Orgeron QBs, all are Miles recruits.

LSU with Orgeron is still where they started stuck in the Miles-Zone (3-4 losses, Miles averaged 3.5 since 2012) and where LSU has been for most of the last decade: looking for a pass offense, looking for an offensive coordinator who can develop a DTQB/Spread/Tempo/RPO offense...the kind to compete with ALA for NCs.


Canada has a guarantee 1.5mm through 2019 whether O likes him or not.

Canada makes more than at least 41 FBS head coaches.

Will it take more Buyout Money to resolve or will Canada and O really bury the hatchet?

He’s not the only
One saying that

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I like Freeze but does he bring too much negative baggage?

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Not at all.

I’m sure on recruiting visits, parents will be thrilled to hear how he got whores for players.

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This is not going to happen, Ensiminger will not be OC next season

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yeah as much as I appreciate him stepping up after Cam was fired, I still didn't like his play calling and think that we can get one of the top OC's in the nation.

No due diligence in the world can predict chemistry and personality issues.

If it boils down to they just don’t like each other, then so be it.