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Can someone explain the whole net neutrality thing?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm
What's it mean. Who wants What? Who's trying to keep it and who's trying to get rid of it. I am a complete retard in this subject fwiw
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
1.) right now the government mandates that all content must be streamed at the same speeds....net neutrality
2.) repealing net neutrality means telecoms companies and work out packages that charge different for different content so long as they tell the public what they are doing and what they are throttling.
2.) repealing net neutrality means telecoms companies and work out packages that charge different for different content so long as they tell the public what they are doing and what they are throttling.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:51 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Net Neutrality is an idea that all internet traffic should be treated equally. There should be no throttling, fast/slow lanes, etc.
Net Neutrality regulation is an order by the FCC that re-classified the internet as a Title 2 utility so that the FCC could regulate them as a utility, which also set forth regulations that prevented the things listed above.
The FCC regulation was repealed. The idea can still be achieved in multiple ways that doesn't involve Title 2 re-classification, which is an overall bad thing for the internet.
Net Neutrality regulation is an order by the FCC that re-classified the internet as a Title 2 utility so that the FCC could regulate them as a utility, which also set forth regulations that prevented the things listed above.
The FCC regulation was repealed. The idea can still be achieved in multiple ways that doesn't involve Title 2 re-classification, which is an overall bad thing for the internet.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:53 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
We're just going back in time about 18 months or so. Will be exactly as it was before and I really doubt anyone on this board saw a difference either way. Just more govt regs that Dems liked.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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Net Neutrality is an idea that all internet traffic should be treated equally. There should be no throttling, fast/slow lanes, etc.
honest question... why was this perceived as something that needed to be repealed? Neutral internet seems a reasonable position that consumers would be in favor of?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:57 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Here’s the bullet points as I see it:
-Nobody can explain what it is, why it’s necessary, etc
-Libs really want it.
Tells me everything I need to know.
-Nobody can explain what it is, why it’s necessary, etc
-Libs really want it.
Tells me everything I need to know.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:59 pm to biscuitsngravy
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honest question... why was this perceived as something that needed to be repealed? Neutral internet seems a reasonable position that consumers would be in favor of?
Title 2 re-classification. The parts consumers would be in favor of do not need title 2 classificatoin. That is an antiquated law as is, and is terrible for the internet long term. It is a 1930's regulation that we are using to regulate the internet. It has hurt innovation and investment in all the areas it has been applied.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:03 pm to biscuitsngravy
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honest question... why was this perceived as something that needed to be repealed? Neutral internet seems a reasonable position that consumers would be in favor of?
Because it is federal government control over what should be free of regulation. The FCC deemed themselves the arbiter. They gave themselves the power.
Like most big goverbment policies, NN is simply a power grab and nothing else. It started with Soros and his foundations… how to push it, how to get it accepted by the public. It has always been political, and not about the internet. They just tell us "it's for your own good. You're stupid for not giving us this power." Unfortunately, the Soros strategy has worked on a lot of people.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:04 pm to SoulGlo
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Because it is federal government control over what should be free of regulation. The FCC deemed themselves the arbiter. They gave themselves the power.
Government created monopolies should not be free of government regulation.
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t started with Soros and his foundations… how to push it, how to get it accepted by the public. It has always been political, and not about the internet. They just tell us "it's for your own good. You're stupid for not giving us this power." Unfortunately, the Soros strategy has worked on a lot of people.
Holy shite.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:05 pm to biscuitsngravy
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why was this perceived as something that needed to be repealed? Neutral internet seems a reasonable position that consumers would be in favor of?
Because Comcast started extorting Netflix because their video services started to suffer as more and more people stopped eatching videos on demand via Comcast, and starting chilling with Netflix.
So Comcast started slowing down Netflix to make up the difference, at which point then the FCC established NN to make everyone equal.
Anyone saying this will help the free market is either lying or ignorant.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:06 pm to GoldenGuy
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Nobody can explain what it is, why it’s necessary, etc
-Libs really want it.
See previous post ^^^^^^.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:07 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Anyone saying this will help the free market is either lying or ignorant.
If comcast is the only game in town then you were already fricked.
If you have choices then I'll bet your bill will actually go down.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:07 pm to Salmon
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Holy shite.
How long have you been paying attention to this?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:08 pm to NYNolaguy1
Except wasn't it found that it was one of Netflix's third parties that was causing the issues, not the ISP?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:09 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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he idea can still be achieved in multiple ways that doesn't involve Title 2 re-classification, which is an overall bad thing for the internet.
Like what? Why is Title 2 classification bad?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:14 pm to upgrayedd
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Like what? Why is Title 2 classification bad?
House Republicans proposed a law in 2014 that would have done it.
Title 2 is awful for infrastructure investment for starters. It is like putting a ball in chain on the internet. 2016, iirc, was the first year ever that capital investments declined in a year that wasn't a recession. It is also a very antiquated regulatory policy that for something as dynamic as the internet, is not a benefit. We went through this with telephones. This story has happened many times before.
ETA: I'm all for the parts of NN that people are scared about (throttling, fast lanes, etc). Title 2 is terrible for us as consumers.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:20 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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Except wasn't it found that it was one of Netflix's third parties that was causing the issues, not the ISP?
Comcast claimed it was Netflix exploiting the peer nodes in their network unfairly, so they "fixed the glitch" and killed peoples video quality.
It just so happened (completely randomly of course) that comcast saw a loss in revenue from On demand services.
I am sure one had nothing to do with the other .
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:23 pm to NYNolaguy1
Comcast, in their merger with Time Warner, also signed off on not doing such actions as part of the merger. So, they are voluntarily regulating themselves
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
NN = Muh Russian give me unfettered porn
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:25 pm to NYNolaguy1
So this is a money grab to enrich some companies at the public expense? So you will get charged for google, for example.
You wants to end this? Dems,repubs?
You wants to end this? Dems,repubs?
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