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re: Can someone explain the whole net neutrality thing?

Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Can someone explain the whole net neutrality thing?


It has meant that all data is treated equally. Sort of like a phone call. Here's an analogy...

Let's say you're hungry for a pizza so you call your favorite pizza place. Because of neutrality rules this means your call goes straight to the number you called with neither muss nor fuss.

What proponents of Net Neutrality are worried about would be akin to that call instead being routed to Domino's because they have a deal with your telco that gives them first dibs on anyone calling any pizza place. Or your call costs an extra .05$ because your favorite pizza place isn't a part of your telephone company's "Buy Local" package.

Prior to NN there were already throttling issues starting (mainly due to the popularity of Netflix).

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Comcast, in their merger with Time Warner, also signed off on not doing such actions as part of the merger.


And the deal never happened...

Also, I am pretty certain they had worked out a way around this even with the language, or it never would have appeared.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to
You are stupid. signed, not a Dem
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:35 pm to
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SoulGlo


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It started with Soros and his foundations


How do you get internet service in your bunker?
Posted by biscuitsngravy
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:40 pm to
Suppose I'm glad I have Google fiber then.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:45 pm to
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Let's say you're hungry for a pizza so you call your favorite pizza place. Because of neutrality rules this means your call goes straight to the number you called with neither muss nor fuss.

What proponents of Net Neutrality are worried about would be akin to that call instead being routed to Domino's because they have a deal with your telco that gives them first dibs on anyone calling any pizza place. Or your call costs an extra .05$ because your favorite pizza place isn't a part of your telephone company's "Buy Local" package.

Prior to NN there were already throttling issues starting (mainly due to the popularity of Netflix).



This is a decent analogy, but I think a lot of people are making the jump to this like this is a for sure thing. Net Neutrality wasn't even established until 2015 - how was your internet before that? Did you pay to access web sites?
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Net Neutrality wasn't even established until 2015 - how was your internet before that? Did you pay to access web sites?


Ask yourself why it had to be implemented in the first place
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:55 pm to
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So you will get charged for google, for example.


Do you think that would be good for google?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:02 pm to
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how was your internet before that? Did you pay to access web sites?


No but it was on the way. By the end of 2014 Netflix had already started paying Comcast because Comcast was throttling traffic to Netflix. It's not a far step from that to offering customers a "fastpass" for better access to Netflix.

Someone will read this and say "well change your ISP" and that's a good rebuttal... for those that have a choice.

But the problem for those that have the choice is that it would happen without your knowing it.

So you realize what's going on and you call your ISP to complain. They offer you their Netflix pacakge for just an extra $3/month.

You get pissed off and hang up then call a competitor (which is most likely just one other) and they say they can schedule you for next week. Great! You call your current provider and tell them all the creative ways they can fornicate with their service. They inform you they are sorry to see you go and you will be charged an early termination fee.

Big deal, you won. You got your Netflix without having to pay extra! Huzzah!

Now your current ISP sees how much Netflix everyone on their network in your area is using so they put in the same policy.

Or maybe the competitor's service sucks, which is why you were with the other company to begin with.

What now?

Posted by Rawdawgs
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:37 pm to
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Ask yourself why it had to be implemented in the first place


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