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re: LA ranked #1 - worst run state government
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:17 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:17 am to EZE Tiger Fan
R and D in LA is really meaningless...they're all just politicians with their hands out.
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:19 am to upgrayedd
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Yeah, it's not the crooked politicians that waste everyone's money through their cronyism. It's the rich people's fault.
I would say both...the rich in LA have typically worked with the corrupt gov to protect their position and stifle competition.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:22 am to cwill
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Most of the productive people left for Houston, Dallas and Atlanta...the State of LA squandered its massive resource advantage. It could have been TX, but much of the wealth was stolen. It's a criminal shame that the legislature has never taken the Long's stolen oil and gas royalties from them
The other issue is that La. is somewhat handicapped in competing with Tx. because they have no income tax. Its not that Texans don't pay taxes but they are not being directly punished for achieving in career/ production.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:24 am to cahoots
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The problem is that the wealthy/powerful in Louisiana are not progressive in how they invest private and public funds. People in Louisiana don't like change. However, you have to adapt to survive in the modern world.
Can you explain what this means or provide an example or two?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:24 am to bayouteche
I still think Alabama's is worse.
Of course, that's probably just splitting hairs of crappiness.
Of course, that's probably just splitting hairs of crappiness.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:24 am to Zephyrius
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The other issue is that La. is somewhat handicapped in competing with Tx. because they have no income tax. Its not that Texans don't pay taxes but they are not being directly punished for achieving in career/ production.
Only punished for owning real estate...I paid less in state income plus property taxes in LA than my property tax in Houston.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 9:33 am
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:27 am to bayouteche
Water is wet and the sky is blue. 
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:27 am to bayouteche
Has been for close to 100 years
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:28 am to Zephyrius
quote:That cuts both ways. In Texas, when you are building your wealth and saving for retirement, you pay property tax that is high, but no income tax. When you retire your income likely lowers, but you still pay a high property tax rate when it would likely be much lower to pay income tax on reduced income.
The other issue is that La. is somewhat handicapped in competing with Tx. because they have no income tax. Its not that Texans don't pay taxes but they are not being directly punished for achieving in career/ production
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:28 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:when's the last time the democrats controlled the state legislature?
I won't, but history does show a certain political party has run just about every aspect of the state for the VAST majority of its existence.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:29 am to Machine
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I won't, but history does show a certain political party has run just about every aspect of the state for the VAST majority of its existence.
when's the last time the democrats controlled the state legislature?
Party affiliation is not really all that meaningful on the state legislative level. At least in Louisiana. They're pretty much all crooks, regardless.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:31 am to DelU249
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Has been for close to 100 years
Louisiana has been corrupt since the days of Bienville.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:33 am to bayouteche
Yeah, no doubt.
But I am not sure I buy off an every measure they have. For example, our unemployment insurance payout is too low? Really?
And our unemployment rate was high but a lot of that has to do with the oil bust. I guess long term a better government might have found a way to diversify the economy; but has very little influence in the short term.
But I am not sure I buy off an every measure they have. For example, our unemployment insurance payout is too low? Really?
And our unemployment rate was high but a lot of that has to do with the oil bust. I guess long term a better government might have found a way to diversify the economy; but has very little influence in the short term.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:44 am to bayouteche
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The report notes many of worst managed states have low budgets, and Louisiana is no different. The state collects the equivalent of $2,071 per person in tax revenue per year compared to the average of $2,821 that other state collect.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:49 am to cwill
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I would say both...the rich in LA have typically worked with the corrupt gov to protect their position and stifle competition.
That's pretty much every state. It makes a perfect case as to why govt needs to be slashed and gutted.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:53 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Can you explain what this means or provide an example or two?
Sure.
Technology transfer from universities is poor. universities get state and federal funding to perform research but they are not progressive in seeking licensing opportunities with the private sector. Other universities are much more efficient with turning public funds into private gains.
Investors in Louisiana are not progressive and traditionally shy away from things not related to O&G or other ancient industries. There isn't much knowledge in the investment community about newer industries and technologies. Add to that a very insular wealthy community that doesn't like newcomers and it becomes difficult to diversify away from certain industries.
This is reinforced by the lack of more robust academic programs in certain technological fields. Computer science at LSU, for example, was chronically underfunded and ranked poorly on a national level.
There are tons of other examples, but that's a few. Basically, the culture of the area just lends itself to stagnation. It's been that way for a long time, but the area has always had a lot of natural resources that kept it afloat. Until other cities got smarter and started doing more with less.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:57 am to upgrayedd
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Yeah, it's not the crooked politicians that waste everyone's money through their cronyism. It's the rich people's fault. What clown.
It's almost like the state can have a host of problems that are related to one another.....
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:01 am to cahoots
That tends to happen when you allow governments to run rampant with zero accountability.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:01 am to Y.A. Tittle
Or could it be that the way that the state government is organized gives and sort of encourages disorganization and ineptitude.
I can remember in the 1980's and 1990's, Republicans were saying , if only you gave the power to us, why, we will run the state effectively. In the 2010's we have the Republicans in power, the state is run disorganized and ineptly.
I can remember in the 1980's and 1990's, Republicans were saying , if only you gave the power to us, why, we will run the state effectively. In the 2010's we have the Republicans in power, the state is run disorganized and ineptly.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 10:04 am to Draconian Sanctions
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The report notes many of worst managed states have low budgets, and Louisiana is no different. The state collects the equivalent of $2,071 per person in tax revenue per year compared to the average of $2,821 that other state collect.
The per capita budget in Louisiana has always been quite high.
According to this list, it seems currently about the mid range amongst states. LINK
I also don't see a whole lot of correlation, in looking at that overall list, between a particular state's prosperity and it's relative budget size.
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