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Suddenly libs care about the deficit.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:59 am
Suddenly now that responsible parents, Wall Street, and creators of jobs are being freed from the chains of taxation, the libs care about the federal deficit.
It's our time to party now, bitches!
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:03 am to crescentcity
quote:It's all they have left to complain about. Trump has broken them.
Suddenly libs care about the deficit.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:03 am to crescentcity
And "conservatives" show they don't give a shite about it.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:06 am to DavidTheGnome
More like conservatives don’t give a shite about a static analysis of the deficit.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:10 am to DavidTheGnome
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And "conservatives" show they don't give a shite about it.
Conservatives know that GDP growth needs to be above 3% in order for the Fed Govt to pay its bills 5 to 10 years down the road. That is where we are right now. Obama era growth of 1.5% won't cut it. Grow the economy then cut spending.
Please grasp your small hands around that.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:14 am to frogtown
correct, frog.
but because DJT has chosen to do things in this order (fix economy then move to spending), the dems will have no choice but to get in bed with spending cuts.
right now dems "...the deficit..." blah blah
tax reform passes. now introduce spending cuts to "...help the deficit". Dems will go dizzy trying to talk their way out of NOT cutting spending now.
It seems so simple, but I cannot ever remember a political beat down like this.
but because DJT has chosen to do things in this order (fix economy then move to spending), the dems will have no choice but to get in bed with spending cuts.
right now dems "...the deficit..." blah blah
tax reform passes. now introduce spending cuts to "...help the deficit". Dems will go dizzy trying to talk their way out of NOT cutting spending now.
It seems so simple, but I cannot ever remember a political beat down like this.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:17 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:
And "conservatives" show they don't give a shite about it.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:18 am to Screaming Viking
quote:Great point! Never thought about that.
but because DJT has chosen to do things in this order (fix economy then move to spending), the dems will have no choice but to get in bed with spending cuts.
right now dems "...the deficit..." blah blah
tax reform passes. now introduce spending cuts to "...help the deficit". Dems will go dizzy trying to talk their way out of NOT cutting spending now.
It seems so simple, but I cannot ever remember a political beat down like this.
Brilliant strategy by Trump.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:21 am to crescentcity
Good. Let's spell it out.
1.4 trillion over 10 years. (static modeling) So let's be real here... BS
Worst case, 140 billion a year.
Anybody want to take a gander at what the yearly deficit was under Obama?
I'll wait.
1.4 trillion over 10 years. (static modeling) So let's be real here... BS
Worst case, 140 billion a year.
Anybody want to take a gander at what the yearly deficit was under Obama?
I'll wait.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:26 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:23 am to fjlee90
quote:
1.4 trillion over 10 years
1.4 billion a year.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:27 am to crescentcity
And not a one of the esteemed MSM ever asks about the 10 TRILLION actual debt $$$ racked up by Obama in 8 years, but are apoplectic at the thought of a static analysis predicting 1.5 trillion in 10 years.
Not even I would have predicted that the DEMs would go there - I figured they'd be content with "starving children" as their basic move.
Going after the debt??? ===== that is called absolute desperation.
Not even I would have predicted that the DEMs would go there - I figured they'd be content with "starving children" as their basic move.
Going after the debt??? ===== that is called absolute desperation.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:27 am to frogtown
quote:
Conservatives know that GDP growth needs to be above 3% in order for the Fed Govt to pay its bills 5 to 10 years down the road.
ribbet
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:30 am to crescentcity
They only care about it to point out the hypocrisy of Republicans that claim to care about it when there's a Dem president.
Same as it ever was. Neither side cares about the deficit. Dems were stupid to cave to R deficit concerns under Clinton and Obama. R's just used those savings both times to pass massive tax cuts, though this one is not yet official.
Same as it ever was. Neither side cares about the deficit. Dems were stupid to cave to R deficit concerns under Clinton and Obama. R's just used those savings both times to pass massive tax cuts, though this one is not yet official.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:30 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:
And "conservatives" show they don't give a shite about it
Eh not really. Conservatives are usually in favor of tax cuts no matter what the deficit is. The deficit is what it is because of spending. The gov't currently collects more tax revenue than ever before.
Usually Dems are against tax cuts because it hurts the gov't's ability to spend more and/or fund different programs. Rarely do you hear them bring up the deficit.
Interestingly they're all of a sudden bringing up the deficit as their main argument against the cuts, which in my mind is a good sign because they don't have many other talking points when it comes to this tax bill.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:31 am to crescentcity
Libs are anti anything Trump and Rep....this isn't a new revelation
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:42 am to frogtown
quote:
Obama era growth of 1.5% won't cut it.
You must have missed the lib poster who said the perfect GDP was on the low side of 2%
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:44 am to crescentcity
I’m not going to pretend to care about the deficit, but if we are going to add 1 and a half trillion onto the debt over the next few years, I’d rather the breaks go to the lower/middle class instead of trying trickle down from the top again. GOP gonna GOP though.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:54 am to crescentcity
quote:
Suddenly "conservatives" don't care about the deficit.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:55 am to crescentcity
No one cares about the deficit, it is just a talking point for those not in power to attack those in power.
Every conservative that said the deficit is important is a hypocrite today. Every Dem who changes their tune when they have the office is also a hypocrite.
Every conservative that said the deficit is important is a hypocrite today. Every Dem who changes their tune when they have the office is also a hypocrite.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:05 pm to Redleg Guy
quote:
No one cares about the deficit, it is just a talking point for those not in power to attack those in power.
Should we care?
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