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re: New tax bill- how will it impact you?

Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:41 pm to
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16428 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:41 pm to
That $2500 deduction that phased out was a joke and a slap in the face. Due to my wife's Vet school loans and my loans, we are way over the $2500 in interest. Plus, because she bought the a practice last year, her pay jumped up and we don't qualify at all anymore. Many people from Vet school and Med school have large student loan burdens, but never really got to take advantage of the deduction. Not to mention the people like me who came from poor backgrounds and had a good bit of student loans. We are fortunate with our jobs and are able to pay down on our loans fine and raise 3 children. I just wish the new tax bill helped out S Corps more since they are the small businesses that outnumber C Corps by a lot.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39747 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:51 pm to
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Affect in your title, and encourage not incourage.



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As for the affect.


Posted by LSUguerilla
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2003
608 posts
Posted on 12/3/17 at 11:25 pm to
Partner in S-Corp service industry...
I'm preparing to get hosed.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
40812 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:49 am to
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No it won’t with the standard deduction doubling.



Correct. I already calculated my new tax bill and the standard deduction doubling made me a happy camper, considering I have no kids and file single.

Not to mention I think I finally crossed the student loan salary line anyway.

This bill is great for single working folk with no dependents.
Posted by CharleyLake
Member since Oct 2006
1341 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:58 am to
I take your meaning. Some of my family is just like you and your wife are. They were able to borrow to attend professional schools and seemingly are penalized be getting a better education.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4737 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:17 am to
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windshieldman


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windshield dude

You've been demoted?
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:19 am
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:32 am to
Not sure why I'm getting downvotes. The bill is too long to read, so I'm only going by what the president is saying. I assume he has read it.
Posted by deNYEd
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
9689 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Make about 40k a year as a fireman

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make 20k a year as a windshield dude

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4 kids

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stay at home wife


How in the hell? You sell drugs as well I assume?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
40812 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:56 pm to
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How in the hell? You sell drugs as well I assume?


10k per mouth is 833.33 a month per person.

That's not taken taxes into account.

Baw must be Dave Ramsey.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:27 pm to
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I'm not sure which version of the bill will be adopted, house or senate.


It will be a compromise but I believe it will skew closer to the senate version. Senate has a lot of very tight rules they have to follow to keep this in the budget system (meaning they don't need 60 votes to stop debate and vote).
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37846 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 2:39 pm to
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Also it looks like there will be flow issues with professional corporations for lawyers, doctors, and accountants. That will sting and I will have to restructure my small business


So you just won't get the benefit of the favored rates. This is similar to how, if these businesses are set up as C Corps... they don't get graduated C corp rates either.

If we end up with one 20 percent C Corp rate for all C Corps... it may be beneficial to convert to a C Corp... but that would be a massive loophole. The whole point of the preferred rate on passthroughs is to give them a similar rate to C corps. So if they are going to put the PSC rules on passthroughs... you would think they would stick them on C Corps as well.

Edit: I see one version has PSCs taxed at 25 percent if they are a C Corp.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:19 pm to
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How in the hell?


Oldest in college but has TOPS and received education scholarship. Wife and I both owned our own places prior to marriage and had decent equity so when we sold we had a good down payment on our house. Hunt public land, basic cable, etc. I don’t know, I don’t feel broke.

Wife will be working again soon, she been out of work till youngest started school. Wife and I, even back when she worked as a nurse and prior to our kids, we never have been one’s to buy extra stuff or junk or whatever. Both vehicles paid off and 1 year left on child in college vehicle, but she also works and takes care of all her other expenses.

Plus i sell crack

ETA: Just check, 5 months left on oldest car note
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39747 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:29 pm to
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It will be a compromise but I believe it will skew closer to the senate version. Senate has a lot of very tight rules they have to follow to keep this in the budget system (meaning they don't need 60 votes to stop debate and vote).


Senate version pretty much mirrors the House bill on property/mortgage interest which I can live with. I pay a metric ton in property taxes and will lose some of that benefit, but the initial Senate bill version that took it totally away would have been a gut check.

In a perfect world, we wouldn't have all these deductions, but changing the rules of the game without some sort of multi-year phase out isn't cool, especially with a purchase like a home. I think they tried to strike a balance on that here.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24478 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:36 pm to
In short, those who previously took a lot of itemized deductions are likely worse off and those who previously took the standard deduction are better off.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16853 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:46 pm to
I have a sole proprietorship that will get a 23% tax deduction.

It is a side business. So I think it will amount to maybe 3000 or 4000 dollars depending on when that deduction is taken. Before or after SEP contribution, etc
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20548 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:36 pm to
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Won’ affect me at all. I have 6-figure income that is tax-free,


What's that?
Posted by Rust Cohle
Baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
2025 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:27 pm to
Joel osten
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3559 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:03 pm to
What if you own rental properties and itemize your deductions. Will th cap on interest be a huge hit?
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13781 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:11 am to
Losing student loan interest will hurt, if the House of Rep's bill is finalized. Losing the deduction for state tax will hurt, too, because I do not live in TX or FL.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13781 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:16 am to
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No it won’t with the standard deduction doubling.


A lot of people with student loans itemize. Particularly the lawyers and doctors that are excluded from tax benefits of this bill. Include that with removing the deduction for state taxes, HELOC's and property taxes and my tax bill is going up.
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