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Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:17 am to ShreveportHog94
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We need them to protect against tyrants that have access to nukes and F18s.
Ok... I'll bite.
Why does the military even bother using infantry if we have these magical nukes and F18s you speak of.
Oh shite! Maybe there is a reason for rifles/boots on the ground!?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:18 am to ShreveportHog94
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Any firearms expert will gladly slap you down for making a claim that only your little booger finger is responsible for the ability to pull a trigger.
Like the firearm expert whom put 27 9mm rounds down range out of his 1911 in under 4 seconds? I thought that wasn't possible...
Hmmmmmm
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:18 am to ShreveportHog94
quote:Reprating the stupid assertion won’t rehabilitate it.
How many time must I say it?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:20 am to ProbyOne
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Why does the military even bother using infantry if we have these magical nukes and F18s you speak of.
Oh shite! Maybe there is a reason for rifles/boots on the ground!?
We also use SAW, 240, AT4, 50 cal. MK-19. You going to pick one of them up at the pawn shop too? I'm looking for the correct answer which is it's fun to shoot them. That's the only valid answer.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:25 am to ShreveportHog94
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What's the best argument against an all out AR ban?
You realize an AR-15 is just a souped-up .22? It is one of the weakest rifle calibers there is.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:27 am to ShreveportHog94
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That's the only valid answer.
No, in fact you are just being dense. My response clearly demonstrates the point. You can't nuke a population into submission.
There are more than enough ARs/other semi autos in the USA to make a difference in a theoretical bad situation.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:28 am to ShreveportHog94
How about a compromise.
An all out AR ban for liberals.
The rest of us sane folks can go about our lives.
An all out AR ban for liberals.
The rest of us sane folks can go about our lives.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:30 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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You realize an AR-15 is just a souped-up .22? It is one of the weakest rifle calibers there is.
While I assume the shooter was using a 5.56 an AR15 can be had with .50BMG uppers so...
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:37 am to ProbyOne
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There are more than enough ARs/other semi autos in the USA to make a difference in a theoretical bad situation.
Nothing in our history agrees with this rationale. Not much in any history agrees with it including the long debunked myth that Nazi Germany disarmed their own citizens.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:41 am to ShreveportHog94
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Not much in any history agrees with it including the long debunked myth that Nazi Germany disarmed their own citizens.
So... Maybe you should read Maos speech on how political power comes out of the barrel of a gun. And how if the govt controls the guns, they control the people.
Remind me, how many MILLIONS were killed under Maos regime after they confiscated the firearms?
I'm sure those villages that were completely wiped off the map would have loved to have had a method to fight back.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:43 am to ShreveportHog94
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Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:45 am to ShreveportHog94
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You do not often find 30 round pistol mags. Most trigger pull in a pistol is significantly heavier than that of any AR I've ever fired. Fatigue also sets in much much fast from holding a pistol extended compared to shoulder fire. Match that with precision and muzzle velocity. You people truly are idiots if any of you think you are out firing an AR with a glock. It's actually laughable. But sure you can fire 15 rounds about as fast. Then it's game over and you know it.
Actually, no. I've always found switching mags a lot easier with a pistol than a rifle.
Anyway, it's a moot point when you get an enclosed crowd in a confined setting. The VT shooter figured that out pretty well.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:47 am to beerJeep
Not that concerned about it. Truth is I don't want to take take your guns and I'm not calling for a ban. Just maybe be upfront about the real reason you want to keep the AR around. It's because they're fun as hell. But stop with all the Bear Arms BS.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:47 am to ShreveportHog94
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Nothing in our history agrees with this rationale. Not much in any history agrees with it including the long debunked myth that Nazi Germany disarmed their own citizens.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:48 am to ShreveportHog94
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There are more than enough ARs/other semi autos in the USA to make a difference in a theoretical bad situation.
Nothing in our history agrees with this rationale. Not much in any history agrees with it including the long debunked myth that Nazi Germany disarmed their own citizens.
How about our two recent wars in which a bunch of ragtag militias fought the greatest military in the world to a standstill with not much more than rifles and homemade explosives?
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:52 am to Obtuse1
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While I assume the shooter was using a 5.56 an AR15 can be had with .50BMG uppers so...
If you put a .50 upper on it, it is bolt action, instead of the gas system that characterizes an AR-15. I can use a hammer, nail and vice to fire 00 buckshot, but that doesn't make my workshop a 12-gauge.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:52 am to AbuTheMonkey
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How about our two recent wars in which a bunch of ragtag militias fought the greatest military in the world to a standstill with not much more than rifles and homemade explosives?
Yeah that's why I sleep in a King size bed at night sound as a pound talking to you guys through a smart phone with high speed internet while those camel riders are asleep in the dirt not knowing when the next meal is coming and if they'll live to the end of the week. Sorry I know that sentence was rough. If that's what winning is then I'd hate to see who is losing.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:53 am to ShreveportHog94
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Not that concerned about it.
Of course not. It proves your assertion WRONG. Oh, and upwards of 45 MILLION people were killed under Mao. Swell guy he was eh?
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Just maybe be upfront about the real reason you want to keep the AR around
I've never hidden it. I want it to stay around because it's the most effective weapon platform to at the very least ATTEMPT to keep the hog population at bay. It allows me to sling 5.56 rounds accurately down range and incapacitate several feral hogs before they run away without the need to reload or deal with a bolt.
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But stop with all the Bear Arms BS.
Well, it's not bullshite. It's in the bill of rights. And well, I'd rather have it and never need it than to need it and not have it.
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:56 am to FT
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The second amendment has limits.
And ARs fall within those limits ("common use").
See D.C. v. Heller and United States v. Miller.
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