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Why don't liberals push for banning handguns?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:19 pm
So called "assault weapons" account for less homicides each year than knives, according to the FBI statistics.
From the best I can figure, handguns account for about 90% of gun homicides in the USA each year, but I never hear anyone on the Left calling for handguns to be banned.
If the issue is really about reducing gun homicides, why aren't they pushing to ban handguns?
From the best I can figure, handguns account for about 90% of gun homicides in the USA each year, but I never hear anyone on the Left calling for handguns to be banned.
If the issue is really about reducing gun homicides, why aren't they pushing to ban handguns?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:21 pm to L.A.
Because unlike the purists such as rand (a complete phony btw) they don't skip steps
Can't do step 3 until step 2 is complete
Can't do step 3 until step 2 is complete
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:21 pm to L.A.
Magazine restrictions? Team Glock and their 30 round magazines have been discussed.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:22 pm to L.A.
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but I never hear anyone on the Left calling for handguns to be banned.
They used to back in the day. For some reason assault rifles have been the rage since Clinton in the 90's.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:23 pm to L.A.
Because those 90% of homicides don't become national news stories that they can grandstand politically for.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:24 pm to L.A.
It would alienate women.
Nothing evens the play field like a conceal carry pistol.
Nothing evens the play field like a conceal carry pistol.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:24 pm to L.A.
No! Ima 2nd amendment guy and think people should be able to own basic rifles and handguns! I think we just need to reign in some of the automatic stuff. I just don't know how.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:26 pm to LSU alum wannabe
quote:California already has magazine restrictions. I just bought a 9mm Springfield Armory pistol and a 10 round mag is the most they could sell.
Magazine restrictions? Team Glock and their 30 round magazines have been discussed.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:34 pm to thetigerman
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Ima 2nd amendment guy
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I think we just need to reign in some of the automatic stuff.
You're not a 2nd amendment guy.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:36 pm to L.A.
It would piss off their base.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:37 pm to Rougarou13
Did he miss the part in the 2nd amendment about the automatic stuff?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:39 pm to DuncanIdaho
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Did he miss the part in the 2nd amendment about the automatic stuff?
Automatic stuff has been HEAVILY regulated for decades. And even that is an infringement.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:42 pm to L.A.
Handguns aren't a threat to all powerful governments, and assault weapons look scary.
You should be very scared of the person calling themself an American who's scared of you being armed with an assault rifle. Odds are, their intentions are no good.
You should be very scared of the person calling themself an American who's scared of you being armed with an assault rifle. Odds are, their intentions are no good.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:43 pm to thetigerman
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I think we just need to reign in some of the automatic stuff. I just don't know how.
you quit being a wuss and get some upper torso strength so you can control your shot pattern better
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:48 pm to L.A.
Emotionally, I understand the reflexive reasoning. You can't kill 59 people at one time with a knife. You're either attacking isolated people or, if in a large crowd, you'll be attacked and restrained long before you can stab that many people. Moreover, knife wound are less lethal than those inflicted by bullets, particularly those of higher caliber. A knife wound to your leg or arm, for instance, but be precisely placed to achieve the level of bleeding required for lethality. A bullet on the other hand produces both concussive force and shrapnel that can achieve the rupture of major peripheral blood vessels without the initial impact striking them. Stab wounds to the abdomen are generally suvivable given medical assistance, bullet wounds to the abdomen however are far more difficult to treat.
The argument for handguns is more difficult to make on an emotional level because a skilled user could easily inflict numerous deaths quickly. That being said, most making the argument conceptually think of higher caliber rifles to be "more deadly", despite this generally being nonsense.
Logically speaking however, it makes little sense. Sure I can't kill 59 people at once with a knife, but I can kill 59 people with a knife over the course of days or months and am less likely to be caught than someone doing the same with a gun. Is that "better" than killing them all at once? It doesnt carry the same emotional weight, but I submit it isnt any worse in any meaningful way.
Take something like a car however. Had someone driven a car at a high rate of speed through that same crowd, I can GUARANTEE you more than 59 people would have died. Hundreds would have been killed if a vehicle large enough to not get stuck in the mass of humanity as the bodies piled up was used. I also submit that would have been easier to carry out than what actually occurred, as obtaining such a vehicle requires nothing more than a driver's license and a signature.
The argument for handguns is more difficult to make on an emotional level because a skilled user could easily inflict numerous deaths quickly. That being said, most making the argument conceptually think of higher caliber rifles to be "more deadly", despite this generally being nonsense.
Logically speaking however, it makes little sense. Sure I can't kill 59 people at once with a knife, but I can kill 59 people with a knife over the course of days or months and am less likely to be caught than someone doing the same with a gun. Is that "better" than killing them all at once? It doesnt carry the same emotional weight, but I submit it isnt any worse in any meaningful way.
Take something like a car however. Had someone driven a car at a high rate of speed through that same crowd, I can GUARANTEE you more than 59 people would have died. Hundreds would have been killed if a vehicle large enough to not get stuck in the mass of humanity as the bodies piled up was used. I also submit that would have been easier to carry out than what actually occurred, as obtaining such a vehicle requires nothing more than a driver's license and a signature.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:50 pm to L.A.
Here's how serious California takes the 2A infringement: The gun, which had been reported stolen in Sacramento in 2009, was loaded with a high-capacity clip that held 13 rounds, Carr said.
VegasInsider 9/26/17 NFL Rams Player seems like I saw Yahoo blurb saying all combined he may be facing 10-40 years.
VegasInsider 9/26/17 NFL Rams Player seems like I saw Yahoo blurb saying all combined he may be facing 10-40 years.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:54 pm to Roger Klarvin
What I found telling is that in the midst of the chaos in Las Vegas, police scanners were recorded with police saying citizens were trying to get their hands on their shotguns.
And that is the natural reaction from people being fired upon, having something to fire back with. However, when you take that away, what are they going to use, Mr. Brady's 7 iron?
If only we could uninvent the gun and the thermonuclear weapon, liberals might actually score points.
And that is the natural reaction from people being fired upon, having something to fire back with. However, when you take that away, what are they going to use, Mr. Brady's 7 iron?
If only we could uninvent the gun and the thermonuclear weapon, liberals might actually score points.
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