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Not making excuses for poor play, but can we all agree the officiating was a disgrace?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:58 am
I mean this was the most poorly officiated game I have ever seen. You have the inexcusable phantom PI and the questionable hold take 14 off the board. Add to that TWO highly questionable targetting calls? Look I get the team is undisciplined and does a lot of dumb shite and the game is changing with targetting and whatnot, but last Saturday was a screw job there is no way around that. It's one thing to get ticky tack calls against you, but these were four HUGE, game-changing calls that were either close or just wrong.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:59 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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the questionable hold
It was a correct call.
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take 7 off the board
FIFY
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. Add to that TWO highly questionable targetting calls?
The first was maybe questionable. The second was legit boneheaded by our guy.
We gotour as kicked. Plain and simple.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:01 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The holding call didn't take 7 off the board because we scored a few plays later.
You have to remember, LSU created those ticky-tack situations for refs to consider grabbing the flag.
You have to remember, LSU created those ticky-tack situations for refs to consider grabbing the flag.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:02 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The first targeting was not questionable. He lowered his head and hit the QB in the head with the crown of his helmet. That is textbook targeting.
The Farrel targeting was not targeting. Call it a late hit, fine, but it wasn't targeting. He hit him inadvertently in the facemask with his facemask.
The Farrel targeting was not targeting. Call it a late hit, fine, but it wasn't targeting. He hit him inadvertently in the facemask with his facemask.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:04 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Two years ago LSU went to MSU and had multiple TDs called back, along with several other big gains. If memory serves, it was well over 200 yards of offense that night that the SEC took away.
However, we still won the game.
Fact is, if you aren't good enough to overcome this BS against MSU, you may as well pack it up now because you won't beat Bama, UF, and AU. If one or two bad calls cause the staff and team to lose focus that bad, we are done. This is the SEC. You HAVE to expect shennanigans if you are a Tier 2 team.
However, we still won the game.
Fact is, if you aren't good enough to overcome this BS against MSU, you may as well pack it up now because you won't beat Bama, UF, and AU. If one or two bad calls cause the staff and team to lose focus that bad, we are done. This is the SEC. You HAVE to expect shennanigans if you are a Tier 2 team.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:04 am to LSUTigersVCURams
As someone mentioned before, the problem with having the reputation as a penalty-prone team is that the refs come into the game looking to penalize you. It's a positive feedback loop.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:05 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The targeting calls were legit.
Don't forget the pass interference call that wasn't called on LSU (with about 3 minutes left in 2nd quarter).
Don't forget the pass interference call that wasn't called on LSU (with about 3 minutes left in 2nd quarter).
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:16 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:07 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Most of the time the officiating is a disgrace. This time was no exception.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:10 am to dawg23
MSU is very strong this year. Not trying to take anything away from a dominant performance. I'm just saying the officials really did a very poor job. I'm sorry but at minimum the second targeting was completely uncalled for.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:16 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Just as there is no excuse for the anemic play by LSU in this game, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.... There is also no excuse for the horrific officiating as well. It was, regardless of how LSU played, pathetic.... That's in no means sour grapes. It's just the facts..... For such a powerhouse conference, we really do seem to endure some pretty sub par officiating on the reg.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:17 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Was there any product on the field, without a Bulldog, that was positive. Coaching, tackling, blocking, passing, catching on the LSU side was all substandard for winning games.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:19 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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the questionable hold take 14 off the board.
Our player was grasping the other players jersey and pulling it. It's the literal definition of holding.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:20 am to LSUTigersVCURams
One play I noticed was an obvious block in the back on a long punt return for MSU that wasn't called. Happened right in front of the return man at midfield, but it is what it is. Still, LSU would have needed to play a lot better than it did for officiating to play a role in the outcome of the game. If officiating had gone the way LSU would have liked it, the final score might have been 30-14.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:22 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The calls by officials were not nearly as bad as the calls by LSU DC and OC There is abad stinch hovering over Baton Rouge.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 am to EZE Tiger Fan
Miss St won the game, and for all we know, might beat LSU 9 out of 10 times this year. That's settled and done.
I think the OP is attempting to discuss officiating. I personally took issue with the penalties called on our scoring plays. Both of those calls can only be made from an official using a microscope.
We are talking about a sport that unfortunately involves an amount of subjectiveness that easily affects its outcomes. Case in point. Clemson is the defending national champion based on an obvious pick play at the goal line with a receiver showing obvious intent.
The precedence set by that official in Starkville Sat night essentially forbids any crossing routes when defenders are in press coverage. Sullivan was as surprised by the contact as much as the defender was. Poor defensive alignment and coverage assignments led to LSU executing a perfectly timed big play.
My point is that if what happened on that play is consistently called it will eliminate press coverage and/or crossing routes altogether when two receivers are aligned on same side. This will NEVER happen. It was a terrible decision by the official.
And I also feel that if no discretion was given to Chark on his first holding penalty, which I honestly can't see at all from my DVR, there will never be any blocks successfully made by a receiver isolated on a DB. But, of course I know this call too will never be consistently made.
The cynic in me thinks that these calls were subconsciencly made due to Miss St being the perceived underdog, which we now know was not the actual case.
I think the OP is attempting to discuss officiating. I personally took issue with the penalties called on our scoring plays. Both of those calls can only be made from an official using a microscope.
We are talking about a sport that unfortunately involves an amount of subjectiveness that easily affects its outcomes. Case in point. Clemson is the defending national champion based on an obvious pick play at the goal line with a receiver showing obvious intent.
The precedence set by that official in Starkville Sat night essentially forbids any crossing routes when defenders are in press coverage. Sullivan was as surprised by the contact as much as the defender was. Poor defensive alignment and coverage assignments led to LSU executing a perfectly timed big play.
My point is that if what happened on that play is consistently called it will eliminate press coverage and/or crossing routes altogether when two receivers are aligned on same side. This will NEVER happen. It was a terrible decision by the official.
And I also feel that if no discretion was given to Chark on his first holding penalty, which I honestly can't see at all from my DVR, there will never be any blocks successfully made by a receiver isolated on a DB. But, of course I know this call too will never be consistently made.
The cynic in me thinks that these calls were subconsciencly made due to Miss St being the perceived underdog, which we now know was not the actual case.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 am to LNCHBOX
quote:You have those backwards.
The first was maybe questionable. The second was legit boneheaded by our guy.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 am to AlxTgr
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You have those backwards.
I don't.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Standard SEC officiating. Total incompetence.
The official who threw the flag on the phantom PI was 20 yards down the field reacting to the aftermath of the play and the openness of Chark. Exactly what you're not suppose to do as an official.
The official who threw the flag on the phantom PI was 20 yards down the field reacting to the aftermath of the play and the openness of Chark. Exactly what you're not suppose to do as an official.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:01 am to LNCHBOX
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I don'
So you think Donnie Alexander launching the crown of his helmet into the head of Williams was a questionable targeting call?
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