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re: Get Your Popcorn Out in St. Louis
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:47 am to TheXman
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:47 am to TheXman
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No that came up in the trial I believe, but I think it was also shown that his personal rifle was never fired that day.
Just read that the AK "style" gun wasn't fired. It was his service weapon. 5 shots fired and all five hit him.
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:55 am to TheXman
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Judge said it would have been an anomaly for a heroin dealer to not have a gun in his car.
A judge with common sense. What in the hell is the world coming to?
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:56 am to RTRinTampa
Just posting this from other thread.
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The Evidence Prosecutors Presented at Trial: The fact that Anthony Smith was shot and killed by Stockley is not in dispute. What prosecutors worked to do was present evidence in court that they believe proved Stockley violated Missouri law when he shot Smith and then planted a gun in Smith’s car to justify the killing.”
More information from the Circuit Attorney’s office: Cool Reflection/Deliberation
Prosecutors charged Stockley with Murder in the First Degree, which requires the State of Missouri to prove that a defendant knowingly caused the death of another person after deliberation upon the matter. Deliberation means cool reflection for any length of time no matter how brief.. Evidence of deliberation was presented at trial through Stockley’s own statement. At 12:41:30 in the dash camera video, Stockley tells Bianchi “We’re killing this mother****, don’t you know.” Forty-five seconds later, he fatally shot Smith.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:20 am to TheXman
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Judge said it would have been an anomaly for a heroin dealer to not have a gun in his car.
I find it interesting that the judge is essentially proving a negative. I.e. that because the drug dealer most likely had a gun, it couldnt have been planted. Yet the dealers DNA wasnt on the gun.
Hmmm.
I dont know if it really matters, place was probably going to burn regardless.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:22 am to TheXman
Prosecutors seemed to have a pretty good point
"Prosecutors believe Stockley’s claim that Smith had a gun and was reaching for it at the time of the shooting was not corroborated by any of the videos or scientific evidence, nor by the actions and reactions of his partner. Prosecutors presented at trial that the actions of his partner were in stark contradiction to Stockley’s own words and claims of self-defense.
Prosecutors concluded that the credibility and reasonableness of Stockley’s actions be judged through the simultaneous actions of his partner Officer Bianchi. Bianchi never fired his weapon. Bianci holstered his weapon while standing by the driver’s side of Smith’s car at the fast food restaurant where Stockley claims Bianchi yelled gun. Bianchi approached Smith’s car after the crash without his weapon drawn.
Stockley’s testimony about seeing Smith with a gun in his right hand pointed at him while in the parking lot of the fast food restaurant is refuted by the physical evidence. Smith’s Buick had a gear shift that had to be operated with the right hand. A button on the back of the gear shift had to be held to shift gears. In order to drive the car forward out of the parking lot after reversing, Smith would have had to have held the gear shift with his right hand and steering wheel with his left hand. As Smith quickly accelerated, there would not have been time for him to then grab a firearm and point it at Stockley.
Stockley’s DNA profile was on every weapon he touched. Anthony Smith’s DNA was not on any weapon."
"Prosecutors believe Stockley’s claim that Smith had a gun and was reaching for it at the time of the shooting was not corroborated by any of the videos or scientific evidence, nor by the actions and reactions of his partner. Prosecutors presented at trial that the actions of his partner were in stark contradiction to Stockley’s own words and claims of self-defense.
Prosecutors concluded that the credibility and reasonableness of Stockley’s actions be judged through the simultaneous actions of his partner Officer Bianchi. Bianchi never fired his weapon. Bianci holstered his weapon while standing by the driver’s side of Smith’s car at the fast food restaurant where Stockley claims Bianchi yelled gun. Bianchi approached Smith’s car after the crash without his weapon drawn.
Stockley’s testimony about seeing Smith with a gun in his right hand pointed at him while in the parking lot of the fast food restaurant is refuted by the physical evidence. Smith’s Buick had a gear shift that had to be operated with the right hand. A button on the back of the gear shift had to be held to shift gears. In order to drive the car forward out of the parking lot after reversing, Smith would have had to have held the gear shift with his right hand and steering wheel with his left hand. As Smith quickly accelerated, there would not have been time for him to then grab a firearm and point it at Stockley.
Stockley’s DNA profile was on every weapon he touched. Anthony Smith’s DNA was not on any weapon."
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:25 am to TheXman
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Well considering in the city of St. Louis, his jury would've been at least 6-7 black people, he made the right decision.
It sucks that either way justice was never going to happen by jury. Either the judge lets him off, or a black jury convicts him because he is white.
Something is not right here...
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:28 am to Ole War Skule
I've followed this case pretty closely, and I'm surprised by the verdict based on the evidence I've seen.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:33 am to magildachunks
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At 12:41:30 in the dash camera video, Stockley tells Bianchi “We’re killing this mother****, don’t you know.” Forty-five seconds later, he fatally shot Smith.
That won't bode well for him. ETA: Nm, it did bode well for him b/c he was acquitted.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:35 am to NYNolaguy1
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It sucks that either way justice was never going to happen by jury. Either the judge lets him off, or a black jury convicts him because he is white.
That's the whole thing that these 'activists' don't get.
He was convicted in the court of public opinion years ago and a jury trial would've been over in 2 seconds.
But because they continually push all this race stuff, especially in cases like Michael Brown where it is proven that Brown was in the wrong, they end up getting a judge trial and the guy gets off.
I don't know if this Stockley guy should be guilty or innocent, but these BLM activists have a lot of blame at their feet.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:36 am to MrLarson
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Cop blasted the guy with his personal AK that he wasn't supposed to have on duty
Wrong.
He had an AK-47, but it was not used. the ballistics show that they came from Stokley's gun.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:45 am to NYNolaguy1
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I find it interesting that the judge is essentially proving a negative. I.e. that because the drug dealer most likely had a gun, it couldnt have been planted. Yet the dealers DNA wasnt on the gun.
LINK
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If you read the transcript of the trial, the experts can only say if there is or is not DNA on the gun. They cannot say whose DNA is on the gun, if any.
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This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:45 am to TheXman
It may happen later this weekend, but most of the people that protest went to Berkeley.
It's hard to start a protest for a drug dealer being shot. He probably didn't have much longer to live or a long prison term. He was a dealer in a city that has the highest murder rate in the country.
It's hard to start a protest for a drug dealer being shot. He probably didn't have much longer to live or a long prison term. He was a dealer in a city that has the highest murder rate in the country.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 10:46 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:55 am to MizzouBS
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It's hard to start a protest for a drug dealer being shot. He probably didn't have much longer to live or a long prison term. He was a dealer in a city that has the highest murder rate in the country.
I was just saying this to someone I work with. This shooting happened in 2011. The chances of this guy being dead by now are 95%.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:58 am to roadGator
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5 shots fired and all five hit him.
At least we know the cop didn't skimp on range time.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:14 am to TheXman
Looks like a small crowd screaming gibberish.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:40 am to TheXman
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Drug deal got busted. Smith (heroin dealer) led the cops on a high speed chase.
Stockley, the cop, shot Smith dead after chase was over, in claims of self defense (I believe).
Needles up, Don't Shoot!
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:45 am to TheXman
God will judge the wicked and the righteous in the end. Rioting won't fix anything.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:06 pm to FooManChoo
Looks like it has started...
Rocks and water bottles being tossed right now in a Facebook feed. Only link I can provide at school though.
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Rocks and water bottles being tossed right now in a Facebook feed. Only link I can provide at school though.
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This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:13 pm to TheXman
It appears the gun was planted. They botched this one and the Castille verdict. This just shows you that cops can murder citizens.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:15 pm to TheXman
I don't understand a bench trial in a case like this
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