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How much bullshite is weight watchers?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 8:23 pm
Co-worker is older and she was on a 1,200-1,500 cal diet per day and wasn't losing weight after 8 weeks of this plus working out.
Obviously, I think she wasn't counting calories very well if she didn't lose anything, and she mentioned eating red beans a rice at Copelands a few weeks ago before starting this ww thing, so I think she wasn't being honest with herself. WW basically starves you, so it's not rocket science that you will lose weight, but you will lose a shitload of muscle in the process.
I had one of those breakfast cups today: eggs, bacon and cheese. Just fat and protein with zero carbs, and the WW app said it would be 10 of her 30 points worth of her daily requirement and it was only 310 calories with 28 grams of protein and 23 grams of fat.
..and she said she went to bed starving last night, leaving 3 points unused. Can you say metabolism shutting down completely?
Obviously, I think she wasn't counting calories very well if she didn't lose anything, and she mentioned eating red beans a rice at Copelands a few weeks ago before starting this ww thing, so I think she wasn't being honest with herself. WW basically starves you, so it's not rocket science that you will lose weight, but you will lose a shitload of muscle in the process.
I had one of those breakfast cups today: eggs, bacon and cheese. Just fat and protein with zero carbs, and the WW app said it would be 10 of her 30 points worth of her daily requirement and it was only 310 calories with 28 grams of protein and 23 grams of fat.
..and she said she went to bed starving last night, leaving 3 points unused. Can you say metabolism shutting down completely?
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 8:24 pm
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:34 pm to LSUAlum2001
I agree, it seems like a complete sham to me. I don't know if she would be willing to listen, but I would suggest looking into the Wild Diet by Abel James. This is simply a paleo diet, but I thought his book was great for beginners and is actually what first turned me on to eating this way. If she needs an overview and has Hulu, tell her to search for My Diet is Better than Yours from 2016. Any Paleo diet would obviously work, but sometimes it's helpful to have it all laid out for you.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:37 am to LSUAlum2001
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1,200-1,500 cal diet per day
That sucks. I wish there was a push that it is the quality of what we eat, not the quantity.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 7:58 am to LSUAlum2001
I hate it, but my sister, who has struggled mightily with weight the past few years is doing it right now and is having tremendous success.
So while it might not be ideal for hardcore people, it certainly can and will work for people will little knowledge of health and fitness.
So while it might not be ideal for hardcore people, it certainly can and will work for people will little knowledge of health and fitness.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 8:05 am to LSUAlum2001
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How much bull shite is weight watchers?
I get the premise of it as I track macros for my diet. Weight watchers just tries to simplify it. But with that point system, it doesn't really teach you anything. That's why people fall off the rails.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:11 am to LSUAlum2001
I've wondered this before and done some reading.
It's just counting calories/caloric restriction. It has a points system that makes it easier for people to actually keep up with what they eat, which is difficult for a lot of people.
It's not a bs system or a scam. They provide recipes, meal plans and other nutritional information. They also help people associate certain foods with "points" so better decisions can be made. Seems like it would be good for someone who is trying to learn how to eat well and learn their body. If you follow their plans, you should lose weight... because caloric surplus/restriction is pretty basic science.
I put zero value on personal stories of weight loss difficulties. People are rarely honest (or even know) how much they eat in a day. Each day is filled with "small cheats" that many never account for.
It's just counting calories/caloric restriction. It has a points system that makes it easier for people to actually keep up with what they eat, which is difficult for a lot of people.
It's not a bs system or a scam. They provide recipes, meal plans and other nutritional information. They also help people associate certain foods with "points" so better decisions can be made. Seems like it would be good for someone who is trying to learn how to eat well and learn their body. If you follow their plans, you should lose weight... because caloric surplus/restriction is pretty basic science.
I put zero value on personal stories of weight loss difficulties. People are rarely honest (or even know) how much they eat in a day. Each day is filled with "small cheats" that many never account for.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 11:53 am to LSUAlum2001
any diet based on counting calories and especially having to pay for them (essentially) is destined to fail eventually.
until we stop the war on fat, people are going to remain hungry and/or fat.
until we stop the war on fat, people are going to remain hungry and/or fat.
Posted on 9/13/17 at 4:05 pm to LSUAlum2001
She needs to stay disciplined and not eat carbs. Eat as much fat and protein as she wants, but no carbs. Her body is likely saturated in glucose right now and the working out she is doing is only burning off what she is taking in. She needs to go a solid 5 days without and carbs and just walk for an hour a day. She will start burning fat like crazy.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:20 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Can you say metabolism shutting down completely?
This isn't real.
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she was on a 1,200-1,500 cal diet per day and wasn't losing weight after 8 weeks of this plus working out.
Inaccurate calorie counting if that's eating in a deficit.
I think some people like WW for the meetings.
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she mentioned eating red beans a rice at Copelands a few weeks ago before starting this ww thing, so I think she wasn't being honest with herself.
People eat food at restaurants before going on diets?
Posted on 9/17/17 at 11:14 pm to LSUAlum2001
IMO it was better in a time period where there wasn't near as much readily available info for your Average Joe or Jill to find for legitimate weight loss. The groups held people accountable and I still use some of the old recipes from my Mom's old WW cookbooks.
I did it and lost some weight but it just wasn't something I could sustain long term. You really do end up feeling like you're starving. Also WW products are a sham and not really worth the time.
I did it and lost some weight but it just wasn't something I could sustain long term. You really do end up feeling like you're starving. Also WW products are a sham and not really worth the time.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 6:18 am to LSUAlum2001
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she said she went to bed starving last night, leaving 3 points unused.
Weight Watchers literally allows you to eat an infinite amount of fresh fruits and veggies for 0 points. If she went to bed "starving" that's on her.
I've used WW on and off in the past, and am currently using it. it has the same faults as most diets, it works when you're on it but not when you stop. I agree with what others have said that it doesn't give you the tools to survive off WW.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:40 am to LSUAlum2001
It's legit. You have to follow the system though. I have quite a few friends who have done really well with it.
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