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re: Evidence of advanced ancient technology at ancient Wari ruins?

Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Since you are so sure that is the case then you should be able to explain what tools and technology they used to bore those perfect holes and "conduits" in hard rock and what was their purpose.

So because someone can't immediately prove the tools and techniques of the time, it means it was aliens?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Always wondered why these super intelligent beings able to travel millions of miles thru space landed here and worked with rocks.


I always wondered... If they were super intelligent how did they become extinct?
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Since you are so sure that is the case then you should be able to explain what tools and technology they used to bore those perfect holes and "conduits" in hard rock and what was their purpose.

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Turn this thing on its side and you got yourself a perfectly good shitter.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:03 pm to
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can't immediately prove the tools and techniques of the time, it means it was aliens?




Yeah I wouldnt pull the alien card but there are definitely tools that were used we know nothing about. Tools that demonstrate an advanced knowledge that shouldnt exist at those times.

I get the feeling our timelines for "civilization" may be way wrong.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:04 pm to
A slight step above the peacock spaceship.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:05 pm to
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So because someone can't immediately prove the tools and techniques of the time, it means it was aliens?

Yup. Assume aliens. Then once scientists and archaeologists figure out how they did it, move onto the next topic and assume aliens.

Rinse and repeat.

They want to believe in ancient aliens so bad that they will jam all shapes into a round hole.

ETA: I remember the alien laptop thread. That was a good one.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Aliens are your "thing", aren't they?

He's the biggest conspiracy nut on this site.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:10 pm to
They were trying to build a rocket.............out of rocks.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:13 pm to
The more I research and learn, the more convinced I am that humanity has reached levels of technological advancement that surpasses (maybe far surpasses) where we are today multiple times in the past, but at some point something happens and forces a "reset" back to the stone ages.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Always wondered why these super intelligent beings able to travel millions of miles thru space landed here and worked with rocks.


What makes you think they traveled millions of miles through space in order to get to Earth?

How do you know they weren't an ancient unknown civilization that has always been on earth?

How do you know they didn't come from another dimension?

How do you know they didn't travel to Earth through a wormhole or use some other unknown method to get to Earth?

Maybe they decided to work with stones because it was all that was here to build stuff with at the time which they knew would last for millions of years.

If we ever visit another planet with the intent to colonize it then I'm sure we will look for natural resources on the planet that we can use rather than have to carry building material through space.



This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:16 pm to
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The more I research and learn, the more convinced I am that humanity has reached levels of technological advancement that surpasses (maybe far surpasses) where we are today multiple times in the past, but at some point something happens and forces a "reset" back to the stone ages.




I dont know about multiple times, but once or twice would make sense.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:19 pm to
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but at some point something happens and forces a "reset" back to the stone ages.


Kardashians happen! At the point in the civilizations where leisure time exceeds work required, some kinda Kardashians emerge and from there on the civilization is doomed.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61687 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:20 pm to
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If we ever visit another planet with the intent to colonize it then I'm sure we will look for natural resources on the planet that we can use rather than have to carry building material through space.


True, but we're going to 3D print bricks and robot assemble it so it will look nothing like Stone Hinge.



How come space ships are the only machines these alleged ancient aliens seem to have? Where's the hieroglyph of the robot bricklayer?
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:23 pm to
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I dont know about multiple times, but once or twice would make sense.


two to three is what I would guess.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42585 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:26 pm to
They had the same brains as us, and utilized slave labor. Basically could do anything we can with natural materials.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:26 pm to
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How do you know they didn't come from another dimension?


Because you don't need something wacky to explain what's observed. All the maybe's in the world don't change that.

FWIW the Sumerians from around 3000 BC wrote complex financial contracts, including the equivalent of today's call options, business loans, etc. The Romans conducted financial audits. We know this because the documents survived.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:32 pm to
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He's the biggest conspiracy nut on this site.


You're the biggest liar on this site.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17152 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:34 pm to
But but but but they used slaves. Isn't this offensive?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:40 pm to
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So because someone can't immediately prove the tools and techniques of the time, it means it was aliens?


I never said or implied that. In fact, I haven't said that I believe it was done by aliens. It could have been done by an unknown ancient civilization that was from Earth.

However, anyone who is so sure it was done by ordinary tools and technology they had at the time and by some ordinary method should be able to state what ordinary tools and technology they used to bore those perfect holes and "conduits" in hard rock and what was their purpose.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61687 posts
Posted on 9/8/17 at 3:41 pm to
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Basically could do anything we can with natural materials.


Ancient Astronaut Theorists like to imply hammer and chisel level sophistication, but they had drills back in the day too. Here are pics from a Nova special recreating an ancient drill.



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Besides cutting clean surfaces on their granite, the Egyptians also drilled cylindrical holes into their stones. A hole eight inches in diameter was found drilled in a granite block at the Temple of Karnak.

...Stocks was brought along to test his theories about how the cores were drilled. Inspired by a bow drill seen in an ancient Egyptian wall painting, Stocks designs a home-made bow drill. He wraps rope around a copper pipe that the Egyptians could have forged. Hopkins and Lehner then pull back and forth on the bow, which is weighted from above. The pipe spins in place, rubbing the sand, which etches a circle into the stone. With the assistance of the sand, the turning copper pipe succeeds in cutting a hole into the granite slab.






LINK

I loved Ancient Aliens when it first came out. They had some interesting anomalies that really made you think. But as they ran out of real mysteries to talk about, they relied on audience ignorance to make their reaches work. Believing the stuff they put out today is about as bad as that millennial that was amazed that you could get TV for free with an antenna.
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