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re: Officer Who Arrested Utah Nurse In Viral Video Is Now Under Criminal Investigation
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:01 pm to SmackoverHawg
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:01 pm to SmackoverHawg
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he should've waited on administration.
Actually the nurse's supervisor was on the phone and his supervisor was telling him to do the draw anyway.
The problem here is that he lost his cool. Even if he wanted to arrest her it wasn't necessary to do it violently. All he had to do was inform her she was under arrest and to put her hands behind her back to get cuffed.
Of course, the charge would have been tossed but the point is that cops with an anger problem shouldn't be in uniform.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:03 pm to Street Hawk
He will be fired. She will get paid. Any other outcome is just illogical.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:11 pm to Street Hawk
The officer has technically committed the offense of misdemeanor Battery. She was not injured.
According to a source that I read, the officer was ordered to make the arrest from a superior.
I don't see where this is a million dollar type of case.
Keep in mind that police departments and hospitals are very interconnected. I don't see either agency wanting to create bad blood. If the nurse/hospital does, they will have to deal with a hostile police department in the future.
I also doubt the nurse would want to ruin an officer's career over a misunderstanding. At least I hope not.
This is being blown way out of proportion especially since there wasn't a racial component here.
According to a source that I read, the officer was ordered to make the arrest from a superior.
I don't see where this is a million dollar type of case.
Keep in mind that police departments and hospitals are very interconnected. I don't see either agency wanting to create bad blood. If the nurse/hospital does, they will have to deal with a hostile police department in the future.
I also doubt the nurse would want to ruin an officer's career over a misunderstanding. At least I hope not.
This is being blown way out of proportion especially since there wasn't a racial component here.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:13 pm to SmackoverHawg
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What's the law?
Not against the law felony wise (maybe simple battery/assault), but in tort he's liable as frick for false imprisonment and abuse of executive power, and I could easily tack on some intentional infliction of emotional distress with that.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:14 pm to foshizzle
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Of course, the charge would have been tossed but the point is that cops that don't know shite about the law shouldn't be in uniform.
FIFY. Then again, we wouldn't have many cops though.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:17 pm to LSUwag
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I also doubt the nurse would want to ruin an officer's career over a misunderstanding. At least I hope not.
I would ruin the frick out that guy's career.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:19 pm to SmackoverHawg
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Officer Who Arrested Utah Nurse In Viral Video Is Now Under Criminal Investigation by SmackoverHawg
What's the law? Did he act professionally? No. But there was an accident with a fatality involved. The longer the patient goes without the lab draw, the longer drugs/alcohol have to metabolize out of their system. I've seen it done here on unconscious pt's. No issues from nursing or administration. I wasn't directly involved, but I have wondered what the exact protocol is.
You fell down the same hole I did in a poli board thread. Took me 5-6 posts before somebody told me the patient was NOT at fault. Apparently just some poor bastard who got plowed into.
I saw the video and NEVER thought anything other than the patient must have been the drunk. Can't wrap my head around it being the other way around, and that cop being that pissed.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:19 pm to Street Hawk
I've been in Law Enforcement for a long time and usually I reserve judgement in situations like this. But, I have to ask myself, how can this officer be so stupid?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:23 pm to SmackoverHawg
Law in Utah is that the LEO needs probable cause to draw blood from a person that isnt or cant consent even in fatal accident. The officer said multiple times on the body cam video that he did not have PC.
He got mad that the nurse challenged him and took it out on her. He should lose his job.
He got mad that the nurse challenged him and took it out on her. He should lose his job.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:23 pm to Street Hawk
Idiot. Go get a warrant, does that even take more than a few minutes?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:29 pm to Street Hawk
Not only was it stupid and bad, but he did it to a female nurse. I can't think of a profession I'd rather not piss of more than nurses. And it isn't close.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:31 pm to Napoleon
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Yeah. He was NOT a suspect in the wreck. The person who caused the wreck died.
Makes me wonder if the cop was being so persistent to have blood drawn hoping they'd find something in the truck drivers system so the police dept could say their high speed chase wasn't the complete cause of the wreck.
Actually typing thing out I realize that this probably isn't a very original thought.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:35 pm to SmackoverHawg
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SmackoverHawg
What law anywhere allows police to require someone to help them?
Why was he not under arrest?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:41 pm to LSUwag
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also doubt the nurse would want to ruin an officer's career
He should have no career.
Any officer that wrongly deprives someone of their freedom,regardless of how long, should not be allowed to have a badge and gun.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:45 pm to Shaun176
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Law in Utah is that the LEO needs probable cause to draw blood from a person that isnt or cant consent even in fatal acciden
Is there a law that requires medical personell to do their bidding even in cases where they have the right to obtain a blood sample?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:47 pm to Street Hawk
He is a piece of shite but does the nurse really deserve millions ?
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:50 pm to djangochained
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does the nurse really deserve millions?
No but she wouldn't get it so it's all a wash.
Posted on 9/2/17 at 2:50 pm to novabill
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Is there a law that requires medical personell to do their bidding even in cases where they have the right to obtain a blood sample?
Was always just a courtesy to the officers. Their card they could play is to just leave them there for the ER to deal with. "Wanna go to jail or the hospital?" Many people are given that option. Then you have a drunken waste of time on your hands. Then they are the hospitals responsibility if they wonder off.
ETA. That obviously was not done in cases of true injury or fatality accidents. Just all of your run of the mill DUIs. Passed out at a stop sign. Swerved into a ditch. You don't help those cops they will help themselves to a cup of coffee and haul arse.
This post was edited on 9/2/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:02 pm to Street Hawk
did you see how the nurse defied him? She should have complied and none of this would have happened!
Posted on 9/2/17 at 3:03 pm to foshizzle
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Even if he wanted to arrest her it wasn't necessary to do it violently. All he had to do was inform her she was under arrest and to put her hands behind her back to get cuffed.
He can just arrest her because he wants to
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