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re: Will Trump's presidency be the least effective of all time?

Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Will Trump's presidency be the least effective of all time?
Depends on who's asking.

He's continuing the establishment agenda in the Middle East and NK.

He's doing nothing about the Federal Reserve. Not so much as an audit.

Major establishment agendas like Obamacare, the Patriot Act, etc. are not being touched.

I could go on and on, but you get the picture; Trump is doing the establishment's work. So much so, in fact, that they may leave him in office for another four years.

Fascism is alive and well in America under the Trump Presidency.

WINNING!
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:44 pm to
Protest what?

Trump has been given enough rope to hang himself and he's doing exactly that.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:46 pm to
You finally responded to the recruiting letters from the want brigade and made it through basic training.

Congrats.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:46 pm to
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Its been very effective at exposing the fake right and the fascist left.
It's been very effective in furthering the establishment agenda of keeping the sheople fighting amongst themselves - left vs. right.
Posted by EastBankTiger
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:49 pm to
I guess that it would depend on how you define "effective."

If your definition would be...getting the most members of the opposing political party elected into office during your tenure...Obama beats everybody.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:49 pm to
You aren't sure of what I'm talking about because you really have no interest and are consumed by your own agenda: hating Trump.

Allow me to go through the points in a futile but still important step in attempting to educate you:

- jobs, the stock market, and the economy continue to boom
...jobs are expanding, over 1M since Trump became president. Stocks are up significantly. The economy is always a decisive factor. If the economy continues to boom as its doing, then the president is effective.

Throw in infrastructure, cutting regulations and approvals, and tax reform
- infrastructure eo already given, streamlining process of approvals. That has been issued. I said if bills are passed on infrastructure and tax reform, then it could be a great presidency. We shall see. These are bills that even weak republicans may support.

Pushing back against the tide of pc is big too - this is self explanatory. its primarily why you and the media are so upset.

Putting conservatives on the Supreme Court that will sit for decades - Gorsuch. Maybe another.

So, I think things are going great. He is doing everything I expected and wanted him to do. I expect more and look forward to more. Infrastructure and tax reform bills should come next.

I'm very pleased.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:50 pm to
Cause or effect?
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:51 pm to
Depends on which side you are on. I'd say its been pretty damn effective thus far.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:52 pm to
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You just can't see that he's exposing the frauds in D.C. and the media for what they are.
I hear this all the time but nobody has been able to explain it. What is he exposing? Who wasn't already aware of this?
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:53 pm to
We are still under Obama's fiscal year, pal.

The rest of your post is filled almost entirely with ifs and buts, and again with no friends it will be quite difficult for him to push any of HIS agenda. Pushing republican establishment just to do something is far different.

If slapping PC bros defines a successful presidency for you, well...
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:53 pm to
You can use tigerdroppings in Mexico?
Posted by gthog61
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:53 pm to
It already isn't
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:54 pm to
Garfield was the least effective president by far. I doubt anyone comes close to him.


ETA: forgot about William Henry Harrison
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 1:57 pm
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:55 pm to
What Trump is doing has to be done to expose the corruption. Just wait till the 2018 elections and you will see the chess board come together!
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:56 pm to
You're on about a 24 hour straight melt.

Honestly impressive
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110063 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:04 pm to
Buchanan will almost certainly carry this for the foreseeable future. His presidency almost literally destroyed the United States.

Then there was Grant who was a lapdog to Congress. But Trump is certainly the least effective in all of our lifetimes.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
110063 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:05 pm to
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He's already done a better job than Obama, so the answer is already "no."


He's done nothing but appoint Neil Gorsich and rant on Twitter.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:14 pm to
He's getting stuff done. Shut yo mouf
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:18 pm to
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JesusQuintana


HATES him some Trump
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 2:23 pm to
If I remember correctly he/she made a lot of predictions and guarantees before the election.

Don't think many of those panned out
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