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Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:17 pm to Iosh
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I think it's pretty justifiable for AAs and NAs as a form of reparations for historical iniquities.
You're ok with screwing over kids who were born well, well after said historical inequities ended?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:19 pm to Iosh
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Wow what are the odds that it's the same group, it's almost like it exists solely so white people can cite them to yellow-wash their insecurities.
It's almost like all the other groups exist solely so asians can virtue signal on racial topics.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:22 pm to Centinel
quote:When we paid reparations to interned Japanese, the money came out of general government funds. We didn't only tax people who were alive in WW2, or only tax white people. It "screwed" everyone in the micro sense that they paid a few extra bucks in taxes. So I'm similarly not too exercised about "screwing" in the micro sense of maybe some marginal applicants attending their second choice school.
You're ok with screwing over kids who were born well, well after said historical inequities ended?
I don't think it's enough, after several centuries of fricked treatment, for the state to just say "okay we're colorblind now that we've stopped plundering your land / keeping you from accumulating wealth / killing a bunch of you for allegedly sleeping with white women"
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:25 pm to Iosh
There's a rather large difference between "all citizens paying a few bucks extra in taxes" and telling a kid that on paper he deserves to be admitted to an education that will shape his entire future, but he has to attend a less prestigious university because he's the wrong skin color.
ETA: You are either against discrimination or you are not. There is no "discrimination is bad except THIS type of discrimination which is ok."
ETA: You are either against discrimination or you are not. There is no "discrimination is bad except THIS type of discrimination which is ok."
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:28 pm to Centinel
quote:Says who?
ETA: You are either against discrimination or you are not. There is no "discrimination is bad except THIS type of discrimination which is ok."
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:29 pm to Iosh
Says anyone who wants to be consistent in their beliefs and not be a supporter of double standards?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:30 pm to Iosh
Do you think less blacks would be accepted to colleges if the admissions process was prohibited from basing decisions on race?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:31 pm to Centinel
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You are either against discrimination or you are not.
Well, that's just not true. A person may SAY that kind of ideological silliness, but we all discriminate to a degree. It drives your consumer choices, where you live, who you interact with, etc...
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:31 pm to Centinel
quote:Saying that I need to be consistent about discrimination is just restating your own conclusion that it's always wrong. I think there are some very specific situations where certain kinds of discrimination are the lesser evil compared to, say, doing nothing to ameliorate the lingering effects of state-backed oppression.
Says anyone who wants to be consistent in their beliefs and not be a supporter of double standards?
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Asian Americans who have never discriminated against anybody in America
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:35 pm to Iosh
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think it's pretty justifiable for AAs and NAs as a form of reparations for historical iniquities. I don't support it for (white) Hispanics.
What is the statute of limitations on historical injustices losh?
How long should people that did nothing keep paying people that had nothing done to them? 200, 300, 500 years?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:36 pm to Iosh
Who decides those specific situations? What are the criteria?
I'm sure you could have found plenty of people in the US during the early 1900s who would agree with you that there are "some very specific situations where certain kinds of discrimination is the lesser evil."
ETA:
There are other ways to accomplish this besides turning right back around and doing the exact same fricking thing you're trying to ameliorate.
I'm sure you could have found plenty of people in the US during the early 1900s who would agree with you that there are "some very specific situations where certain kinds of discrimination is the lesser evil."
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say, doing nothing to ameliorate the lingering effects of state-backed oppression.
There are other ways to accomplish this besides turning right back around and doing the exact same fricking thing you're trying to ameliorate.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:36 pm to Iosh
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I think it's pretty justifiable for AAs and NAs as a form of reparations for historical iniquities. I don't support it for (white) Hispanics.
I'm 25% Irish, my people were the first real slave population in the US and for much of those slavery years were seen as worth less than the black slaves. Where are my reparations?
How about repatriations instead?
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:38 pm to Iosh
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When we paid reparations to interned Japanese, the money came out of general government funds.
The big difference is that the interred Japanese affected were directly paid by the government, rather than their descendants 150+ years later.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Never took you as a fan of AA, Iosh. What the heck is the deal there?
It's his white guilt..
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:40 pm to Centinel
quote:Go on.
There are other ways to accomplish this
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:44 pm to Wally Sparks
quote:Their descendants received payments if they had died. And you can cut the 150+ years bullshite because I'm talking about all state-backed racial oppression. Jim Crow ain't that old.
The big difference is that the interred Japanese affected were directly paid by the government, rather than their descendants 150+ years later.
Posted on 8/3/17 at 12:44 pm to Centinel
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Silly asians, you aren't REAL minorities. You're too successful. You're just dark tinted white folk.
Enough is enough. All American should be equal, no matter you are Asian American, African American, Latino American, Native American or European American.
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